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Episode 93: Shonen Jump Round-up the Fourth 3rd Impact
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Ever wondered what makes prequels tick despite their predictable endings? Join me, Richard Arthur John Kevis the First, and my co-host Karl as we embark on a quirky exploration of the television and manga worlds in this episode of "Deep Space and Dragons." We kick off with a light-hearted take on hygiene, setting the stage for a deeper conversation on the challenges of prequels, using "Dexter: Original Sin" as our case study. We ponder the rare success stories like "Jujutsu Kaisen" and "Naruto," where prequels manage to surprise and engage fans despite the known destinies of the characters.
Manga enthusiasts will relish our lively debate on the narrative peaks and pitfalls of beloved series. From the chaotic brilliance of "Chainsaw Man" to the comedic yet unpredictable finale of "Mashle: Magic and Muscles," we critique how these stories balance artistic style with storytelling substance. Language and culture also get their moment in the spotlight as we discuss the hurdles of enjoying puzzle-based narratives like "Cypher Academy."
As we wind down, we celebrate the whimsical and the bizarre in the manga universe. From the unexpected joy of "Shiba Inu Rooms" to the comedic chaos of "Super Psychic Policeman Chozo," We reflect on the potential revival of classics like "Yu Yu Hakusho" while playfully debating which current series should make room for fresh content. Whether you're a fan of epic battles or comedic capers, this episode offers a hearty mix of passion, humor, and thoughtful critique.
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Hello Internet. I am Richard Arthur John Kivas the First. Ooh and this is Carl.
Speaker 2I'm glad I'm guys, there a second.
Speaker 1There could be someday I mean not at the same time, I think it's a Highlander situation. Anyway, welcome to Deep Space and Dragons, where we talk about nerdy crap or occasionally just soap, like it hasn't happened yet, but we will at some point just talk about soaps. I'm certain there's only so many topics.
Speaker 2Just talk about soap. Yeah, have you been to Lush?
Speaker 1recently. There are some quality soaps out there bro.
Speaker 2Fair, fair.
Speaker 1I am on team hygiene, which is maybe just like a pushback to the societal damage of going to magic tournaments.
Speaker 2Is that what's new with you? You decided to finally take a shower.
Speaker 1First off, I take, like rose, petal bubble baths. Like you know this about me, you know you'll be like I would like to use the bathroom, but I think he's listening to smooth jazz with candles lit, so I'll go somewhere else. Just go to work and use their bathroom.
Speaker 2You've come so far. I mean, you used to say that you would take a shower and would never admit that you were actually taking a bath.
Speaker 1Yeah, because I got bullied a lot, like you're trying to do it right now. I'm not saying it's a microaggression. I think it's like a medium aggression.
Speaker 2A medium aggression, not a microaggression.
Speaker 1I think it's like a medium aggression. A medium aggression, not a macroaggression.
Speaker 2It's like Sasuke's eyebrows level of aggressive.
Speaker 1Ooh, and not the Boruto Snape eyebrows. So what's?
Speaker 2new in the ground. Oh well, first things first. My girlfriend, more of a fiancé. She likes the show Dexter yeah, that should be a fiancé.
Speaker 1she likes the show Dexter yeah, that should be a red flag, but it's usually the wholesome people who like the murder shows. Not sure why.
Speaker 2There's so many people who are just fascinated with serial killers, and the first couple seasons of Dexter, for sure, are really good. A couple hiccups, they don't overstate it. Its welcome for me, I never actually finished watching the original series and I have not watched the sequel series where he has a son that he tries to groom into a serial killer.
Speaker 1I don't know I mean, I feel like skipping the sequel to like anything gets reboot is just what you should do out of principle, principle yeah, but they recently started airing a uh prequel series called uh, original sin and uh, there's only, there's only like five episodes so far.
Speaker 2It comes out every friday, um, and so far I think I'm I'm enjoying it, but I am wondering how long I'm going to be able to enjoy it because, as you've said repeatedly on and off the podcast, I'm fairly sure prequel series tend not to really have stakes.
Speaker 1It's such a fascinating problem because it's like I was having a lengthy conversation with someone today about when you make an anime video game. You can either tell the story of the anime, which is kind of boring, or write something original, and then people's brain always goes to oh, I'll do the first Ninja War or the Hundred Year Blood War or a prequel of some kind, Even if you go far enough back that you could just add characters, because they'd be dead due to old age anyway.
Speaker 1you still kind of lose, something Like I don't think I can think of a single good like legitimately good prequel, Because I think it's just like hard to do.
Speaker 2Well, like I say, I'm enjoying it so far, but it's like he dumped a body in the Florida Keys where it would get eaten by alligators and then at the end of the episode, it's like, oh, his hand floated up to the surface and it's like, yeah, but Dexter literally can't get caught.
Speaker 1Right, or he kills everyone that catches him in a horrible murder rampage.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, but I mean, most of the characters that are in the police precinct while he's doing his internship are characters that are in the original show. So I was like the majority of the cast is pretty safe. There's a couple characters, a couple characters I'm like. Hmm, one of them is played by Sarah Michelle Gellar. I feel like she's gonna die.
Speaker 1What's interesting is I'm gonna retcon my prequel statement a little bit, so prequels can work as a miniseries. So statement a little bit, so prequels can work as a mini-series.
Speaker 2So here's three prequels that were somewhat decent Okay.
Speaker 1The Gojo arc in JJK, with Gojo and Ghetto falling madly in love and then having a falling out.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Kakashi's flashback.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1And oh, my brain just completely froze Bardock, the movie. So it's like if you do a prequel, if you pick, you can't pick a main character, because you're doomed, because nothing interesting can happen. Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2Bardock, like the one where he goes Super Saiyan. He's the original Super Saiyan or Legend of Trunks.
Speaker 1I'm not going to dignify that with a response.
Speaker 2I'm just trying to make sure.
Speaker 1How dare you? I believe the exact quote from the abridged version of that, of all the contrived bullshit. I actually really enjoyed it. So they did an abridged episode for the Bardock movie and the thing that gets him so mad to go. Super Saiyan is how dumb the concept of the movie he's in is now.
Speaker 2That was delightfully meta anyways, you were rambling about prequels.
Speaker 1I feel like there might be more new with you, maybe, but if not, we can go rambling into prequels will go directly into our episode topic. Well, I mean the other thing, be more new with you, maybe, but if not, we can go Rambling into prequels will go directly into our episode topic.
Speaker 2Well, I mean. The other thing that's new with me is that again, my fiancée has decided that she really likes the game Disney Villainous.
Speaker 1That is like a quality game Kind of.
Speaker 2Well, it's very good at what it does, it's an interesting four-player solitaire. Yeah, and I mean like it's Disney nostalgia of the game, because there's all these iconic villains, iconic locations iconic characters, scenes and also the vast majority of LGBT Disney characters before 2000,.
Speaker 1Because they were all villains. Um, but Disney characters before 2000? Because they were all villains. Name one straight character on that board.
Speaker 2One straight character on that board.
Speaker 1Scar's so flamboyant he's in a game called Villain-ness and no one bats an eye. It's just like, yeah, Scar should be there with Ursula. That just makes sense.
Speaker 2Villain-ouse, as in someone who does villain-like things, not the gender-specific villain or villainess.
Speaker 1I'm still mad they're not called nursemen.
Speaker 2Note disclaimer Not my actual take.
Speaker 2So we went to Costco and we found a bundle for Villainous. It was like 90 bucks. It had 10 villains. I was like, oh sweet, it comes with the base game and two expansions. Now, super fans of the series might realize my mistake already, because most of the expansions come with three characters. So that makes six for the two expansions and the actual base game also comes with six characters. But the third portion of the bundle I got only came with four and I'm a little bit upset about this because the introduction to evil is the base game minus two characters, and those two characters have not been reprinted or repackaged in any other form.
Speaker 1But what are the two characters? Because this matters.
Speaker 2Jafar and the Queen of Hearts, of hearts oh, those are good ones, I know, uh. And so it's like I don't want to have to buy the actual base game and get four characters that I already have. But you can't find a replacement parts on amazon. And if you try to buy just the queen of hearts on eBay, buy all the individual pieces, it's like $90 just for the one character and that's. You have to like search through and go through different buyers to buy all the different parts, and it's I'm extremely frustrated with with that particular packaging because, like they got you, why? Yeah? Yeah, I thought I was getting the base game and then my siblings come over and they're like, oh, you're missing two characters. Like what? Oh, you're right, you got done dirty.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then, like I say, there doesn't appear to be any way aside from maybe contacting Ravensburger directly or Ravensburg.
Speaker 1I hear good things about the company. It's entirely possible that would work.
Speaker 2Then I might be able to get replacement pieces for a game that I bought the wrong version.
Speaker 1I thought this was a complete version because it said complete on it. It's a pretty fair claim.
Speaker 2But regardless, I mean we got good value and she's bought most of the other expansions now, so we have a huge collection. The problem is I don't particularly like the game because, like you say, it's four player solitaire and it's like why am I playing this with people?
Speaker 1I mean, it might be one of those games, though, where it's like, if the game's easy enough, you you can like at least enjoy your company while playing it.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, that's definitely. The angle I'm taking is just that you know it's a good game to play with people because you can just sit there and chat and do whatever, but I just it's. You don't have much interaction with the other players for their game state and I find it very difficult, even with my own objective, to know how far or close I am to that objective and whether or not fading someone is actually the right move, because it's like a 50-50 chance, whether or not it's something beneficial to them or if it's actually a detriment to them.
Speaker 1I mean nothing will ever beat the game night value. That is three dragon ante Just poker with dragons.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1Perfect game Ten out of ten.
Speaker 2Anyway, that's enough of me complaining about villainous what's new with you there, richard so?
Speaker 1as you're aware, interviewers will not be, because they're watching this in no particular order, nor do I put any form of date stamp on these nor do. I release them consistently on my end, but the holidays have happened.
Speaker 2The holidays have happened. Which holidays? You'll never know.
Speaker 1Doesn't matter. What matters is. I decided it was a good idea to try and get an entry into the J-Novel Club.
Speaker 2Light.
Speaker 1Novel Contest. And I did this by staying up till four in the morning every day for two weeks, and I succeeded at this endeavor. And writing a hundred thousand words in two weeks is not as easy as it sounds.
Speaker 2My hands are still recovering. I took actual spiritual damage.
Speaker 1So like the semester started back up but like I was just kind of in a fugue state for a while and now that like I've been exposed to the cold air and the sunlight, I've like become less feral and back to like my normal self. But yeah, no, I was in a writing rage, like as absolutely a barbarian use the rage action to write, and it was delightful. Also, at some point I went out for New Year's, got a mini dice set, watched some fireworks, so good times were had.
Speaker 2I had to work until 4 am on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 1No, we drank a redacted beverage while the Snoopy holiday screensaver went in the background and then watched the fireworks from a nine-story balcony. It was pretty great.
Speaker 2I don't even think there were any official fireworks here.
Speaker 1For the context. I'm afraid to step out on the balcony, but look nice from my vantage point.
Speaker 2Why are you scared to step on the balcony?
Speaker 1I'm afraid of heights, dude, I'm afraid of heights that would kill me.
Speaker 2I mean like there's a railing.
Speaker 1Have you met me? What would you say? The odds of me falling over a ninth-story railing are just from my normal day-to-day existence.
Speaker 2Well, your track record is pretty good. You've never fallen off a railing before.
Speaker 1I avoid standing near railings because of how clumsy I am. It's the same reason I don't juggle knives, ride a bicycle or drive a car, Because I'll die.
Speaker 2Now you were pretty close to being able to drive a car before you moved to Toronto.
Speaker 1Man. The temptation to throw random shade at our driving instructor that will never watch this podcast Because he was just such a human and there's so much to say about that man.
Speaker 2So much to say about it.
Speaker 1A truly gigantic planetary amount, a Snorlax worth of things to say about that person. But on to show and joke.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, on to show and joke.
Speaker 1So I believe our plan is to talk about things that have ended, things that have started, what we like, what we're not reading. But I'm just going to open up with Chainsaw Man's wackadoodle existence, because have you read the most recent chapter?
Speaker 2I sure have.
Speaker 1It has my three favorite moments in the series so far so far Favorite moment the first, when they realize you can just climb in his mouth to shoot somebody Right. Moment, the second, when the reaction to fighting the aging devil is do I still look pretty?
Speaker 2Yeah, okay.
Manga Series Endings and Critiques
Speaker 1And dropping a giant octopus on somebody. Art Chainsaw man consistently art. Is it good art? I don't know. It's too busy being too edgy and controversial, it's like you know how a lot of shows pretend to be edgy Chainsaw. Man's actually edgy because it does weird things, like pretending to be edgy is like oh.
Speaker 1I was bullied as a kid and then I jumped off a bridge and woke up in a fancy world. You're pretending to be edgy. Shut the hell up. What's actual edgy is sticking your whole arm in someone's mouth to shoot somebody like what?
Speaker 2well, okay, now let's uh, let's travel back in time a bit. I mean, I do love chainsaw man, but, um, in january of 2024, the epilogue chapter of match, special magic and muscles was was released. Uh, so I don't know if you consider that technically ending in 2024, or if you would say that it ended in 2023, because it's an epilogue chapter. I'm going to get into 2024.
Speaker 1So I'm going to put out a Richard Hot Take of the Week, which may be a recurring segment. I'll probably forget by next week.
Speaker 2Hot Take of the.
Speaker 1Week. It is bad when you have to release an epilogue because your ending was so meh. What is it? Four things that have ended. They're like. Actually, here's our actual ending, because no one liked that. That's not great. Dragon Ball Z didn't put out an epilogue until they did their 20-year anniversary Son Goku and Pal's luxury barbecue, and that was an anime. It's like, no, it's done. So I do not respect Mashal's epilogue chapter Also. Mashal had a good ending.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know why there's an epilogue chapter, but it was released in January 2024.
Speaker 1The anime's going and you want hype.
Speaker 2Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1So here's the thing about Mashal. I hated the part where they took Mashal out of Mashal and I'm not sure I ever liked Mashal. I was amused by Mashal, however. His bicycle swim, kicking the island out of the way of the Madara attack, was solid. That was a solid ending. It was so stupid and I did not see it coming until he's like I got this and jumps in the water. I'm like, oh snap, like. And I did not see it coming until he's like I got this and jumps to the water. Oh snap, like. It was an oh snap moment. When they decide that I'm supposed to care about the characters with different lines on their face having their 10 battles, it bleach style. No, if you're not named Mashal, I don't care. I'm not here for the seriousness, I'm here to watch him kick his legs so fast the broom flies.
Speaker 1So yeah, I'm going to say Mashal so yeah, I'm gonna say mashall. If mashall was 62 instead of 162 chapters, it would have been a good anime. Yeah, probably actually even 100. Oh, you know some of your shonen fights. You just didn't need that many because I literally knew no one's names and you can tell our audiences at home. It's a problem if I don't know anyone's name.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, that is true.
Speaker 1Me and my friend made a spreadsheet for World Trigger to track all the squad members.
Speaker 2Um, so then the next series that I can say definitively ended in 20.4. World Trigger, right, no, damn it. Uh, in February, uh uh, cypher Academy seems to have released their last chapter.
Speaker 1So I stopped following it. When at one point they're like I don't know if we can correctly translate this. You know, my problem with Cypher Academy is actually largely and this is kind of a weird thing to say because it's not really a critique, but it is is it was kind of defeated by a language barrier, like the idea that I'm in a puzzle school using puzzles to puzzle, though I'm using blank, and a blank school to blank. I've read like 30 times Right.
Speaker 1If it has the word academy. It's the same basic premise, but I couldn't get into the puzzles.
Speaker 2Right, because we didn't understand them.
Speaker 1Like I remember a while back I was reading a manga forever ago. Cannot remember the name, but it's about a guy who was basically in gambling school who had to gamble enough money to win back his parents' fortune from gambling school, and every chapter was him scamming someone with a new scam. Like there's some boxers like I have perfect dynamic accuracy and I can see how the dice land. It's like you fool, I also do.
Speaker 2It's like no, he didn't you fool he made you stare at it so he could switch out the dice and win your million dollars. That's not Liar Game, is it?
Speaker 1Maybe Liar Game is a similar idea. I think I'm thinking of something else, but it might have been Liar Game. But you get the idea of a new character rolls up at MacGuffin Academy and then is the best at that MacGuffin to then defeat the MacGuffin, and it's like a wants-to-be-combat-but-isn't. I definitely read a card game, one that wasn't Yu-Gi-Oh, that had a similar premise and no immediate other examples come to mind, like, I guess, classroom or the Elite. But that was my thing with Cypher Academy. It's like, okay, you need to use your puzzle powers to puzzle, to beat the puzzles, but I don't understand the puzzles.
Speaker 1Maybe I'm dumb, I don't know.
Speaker 2According to some paperwork I got him, I'm actually really smart, but these puzzles meant nothing to me uh well, yeah, that's definitely a language barrier because the written languages between english and japanese are so different. Uh, that, like it's Like with Undead Unlocked, there's the language Uma and they're playing that game where you link the last letter to I remember that chapter specifically and I don't know why. Yeah, so they link the last letter to the first letter of the next word. But if you end with a certain Japanese syllable, you lose instantly.
Speaker 1And they started like using different languages instantly and they started using different languages.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I was like wow, I mean it's an interesting concept, but I absolutely cannot follow what's actually going on.
Speaker 1Thankfully it's Undead Unlocked and it's hit JoJo levels of sure, why not? My reaction to every chapter of Undead Unlocked for the last 30 chapters has been sure, why not? Why not? I don't see sure. Why not? Why not? I don't see a problem here. Why not have it go this way? Sure.
Speaker 2In any event, Cypher Academy only made it to chapter 58.
Speaker 1Or one-eighth of Roboco. So another thing that hasn't definitively ended but I just enjoy talking about. If Kaiju number 8 goes out in the next ten chapters, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1They did all the things Like. I gave this speech, probably like I don't know half a year ago, of okay, either they're wrapping up or they're heading to the act one time skip and I'm fine with that Something good can just end Before it comes bad.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean. All sources seem to indicate that it is transitioning towards the end and not a time skip, but who knows?
Speaker 1I mean I would read Kaiju number 9 about their kid Great.
Speaker 2But so it looks like February Was a big month for for series ending, uh because oh, go ahead uh well, haikyuu, the volleyball game seems to have ended with its second epilogue, chapter 402.2 haikyuu on this podcast.
Speaker 1I know a lot of people who absolutely love haikyuu okay, ride or die haikyuu. Haikikyuu is amazing and I understand why it's an anime with no angst. It is angst free. I really enjoyed the anime but it turns out reading volleyball. Just isn't really my thing, but it's good. It's just not for me Makes sense.
Speaker 2That one, yeah, 402.2. Then Martial Arts, master of Sumi, that one's definitely not cancelled. They just had this plot arc and they're like and we're done, what?
Speaker 1Well, what happened was he went straight to the final boss and fought him. It's like, okay, that one is funny. It could have either went a thousand chapters or 60, depending on how they paste it.
Speaker 2Right, well, it only gets to chapter 32.
Speaker 1Yeah, because he's like I need a train to fight my brother. I fought my brother, Okay.
Speaker 2Okay, that's cool. Yeah, good story. It was a Rocky movie.
Speaker 1I enjoyed it Literally. That's cool, good story. It was a Rocky movie. I enjoyed it Literally. If you were to adapt it would probably be the length of a Rocky movie About that much stuff happened?
Speaker 2Not a lot happened.
Speaker 1I mean, that's what they have for putting a strong female lead in a show and jump show. At least she got her emotional resolution.
Speaker 2She didn't really need any, though she was badass at her thing and proceeded to be badass at her thing. I mean, that's true, but you know just.
Speaker 1It's annoying because, like it's like someone listened to my episode on History's Strongest Disciple, kenichi, and all my complaints and fixed most of them in that. Right and it turns out that if something's good and I like it, it'll just get cancelled anyway. So I have hope, because it's like what if Mew didn't suck inexplicably? Because my biggest complaint of Kenichi was Mew sucked inexplicably? They're like we wrote this character to be badass and we'll refuse to ever let them be badass Because gender snipes Japan. This is why you're going extinct.
Speaker 2Next thing that ended in February 2024 was Jiangshi X.
Speaker 1So it's weird. I gave it like 30 chapters before I dropped off and it didn't do anything wrong. I don't know what it did to deserve my score and, to be honest, I think it just wasn't quite good enough. It was very enough.
Speaker 2It was very generic.
Speaker 1It felt like it was Demon Slayer and Demon Slayer's like isn't that the best anime of all time? I'm like no, it's Inuwa-shu without the romance. Like what are we doing here? Oh man, I got such a dirty look when I told a good friend of mine that Demon Slayer is just Inuasha, without the heart, Like but Tanjiro and his sister. It's like, yeah, he's just whining, it's not that bad, she's still alive. She didn't get Nina'd, Like chill.
Speaker 1She literally got fridged Anyway. But yeah, long story short. What are your thoughts on that one, if any?
Speaker 2I mean, it was a fun read, but Hot take.
Speaker 1I think it was objectively better than Shaman King. It's like it wasn't good enough to keep me reading it, but it's been better than things I completed. It just was against the fact that I had read better things. Exorcist, poisoning man.
Speaker 2They introduced the big bad pretty much right at the very beginning and then, just like boss, rushed their way to it. We're just going to have a time skip to come back super badass, and then they can just beat the final boss.
Speaker 1It was basically the plot of Demon Slayer in a speedrun. Demon Slayer- yeah.
Speaker 2So I mean, like I say, I liked it, I enjoyed the art style and I liked it conceptually, but it just didn't really do anything special.
Speaker 1I think it's problem. Two is it aired during exorcism season, where this entire magazine was exorcists.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah. But then we move on to March, where nothing technically ended. But it looks like Akira Toriyama passed away in March and so the last chapter of Dragon Ball Super was released.
Speaker 1Dragon Ball Super is in a weird state, right Because? It went on a strong hiatus for the manga and the Dragon Ball Super manga was always weird. Because what bugged me is they manga changed some things and then say other things were canon in like two panels. It's weird. It's a manga that assumes you're watching an anime but also contradicts the anime, like it'll literally be like. And here's our take on Zamasu Also, broly happened exactly as it did in the movie and I'm like but that should be impossible because you changed the other things.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But like the form it was in before. When it comes back, it will not be the same.
Speaker 2Mm.
Speaker 1That's just all there is to it. Since it cannot be the same, I'm going to say it ended and we're basically getting Dragon Ball Super Shippuden.
Speaker 2And then another somewhat interesting one, which the author appears to have been plagued with health issues, is Ghost Reaper Girl.
Speaker 1So Ghost, Reaper. Girl I want to throw shade at because it was so obviously inspired by Bleach Syndrome, but I kind of liked it. It's like I like to make the quip. It's like can we have a female character have any form of empowerment in manga?
Speaker 2and they're like, yeah, sure yeah, it's just too bad that it's on indefinite hiatus and I don't even know what the condition of the author is now. I mean, maybe they actually passed away. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1I just couldn't believe that it aired in a magazine with soul reapers and it was called ghost reaper girl, like, like it was so painful, like it was a unique series, but like, oh man, also Bleach isn't the thing it rips off, it's Blue Exorcist, like line for line, but also much like Jiangshi. It didn't actually do anything wrong. I kept up with it until it passed away.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's never going to get a conclusion.
Speaker 1Which is the worst, I think. I don't know. Please continue your list, because you prepared for today like a champ.
Speaker 2Well, so then in April we had Mama Yu Yu.
Speaker 1So, Only 29 chapters I want to quote a line from Star Trek Lower Decks, which also ended this year. Rest in peace, star Trek Lower Decks, you were so good. So there's a line where a character who is in a multiverse jumping spaceship meeting alternate reality versions of Star Trek characters. It gives like a five-minute rant about how much he hates the multiverse Because instead of exploring and new ideas, it's just the same crap remixed, and he was so mad about it. But then it ends with like a no, there's beauty in the different variations. And da, da, da. And I'm like, yeah, what about you? He's like, look at our weird multiverse premise. I'm like, okay, multiverse isn't popular anymore, mr Shot.
Speaker 2Should have came out earlier. Yeah, that's true. If they had come out like in 2022, if they had started 2022 instead of 2023, they probably would have hit a bigger, better stride.
Speaker 1I'm not going to say I dropped out of it because it started from chapter one. The moment they're like alternate reality. I'm like eh, and not because it did anything wrong. It's just been done to death.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1What do you got next for us?
Speaker 2Two on Ice that also ended in April.
Speaker 1Didn't see it.
Speaker 2Two on Ice. That was the figure skating one.
Manga Series Endings Review
Speaker 1Yeah, read the figure skating one. Oh, I thought you did. No, it is ironic that openly bisexual Richard did not read the figure skating one and aggressively straight Carl did. That's funny.
Speaker 2Aggressively straight.
Speaker 1You're from Saskatchewan. They don't like gay people there.
Speaker 2Hey, the Australian guy who I was wondering about his sexual identity the other day, a while back. I don't know if I actually managed to know the podcast.
Speaker 1Probably shouldn't, but what's annoying is we're recording this and I need to know the answer, so I'm making you answer and out this random person on this podcast.
Speaker 2Oh no, he's comfortable with his own sexuality. Oh fine.
Speaker 1Oh, that's good then.
Speaker 2And he is definitely gay Okay.
Speaker 1So on one hand, you are right. On the other hand, I hope you took my advice of don't ask your employees about their sexual identity, for the love of God, carl.
Speaker 2I didn't ask him about his sexual identity identity, for the love of God, Carl. I didn't ask him about his sexual identity. He asked me about immigration and then gave me so much more information about his life story that I needed to know to be able to help him immigrate.
Speaker 1You know, fair enough, alright. And you did immediately go and I'm deporting you because you're gay, because I did say I'd have to wrap up our podcast here and we'd going to have to wrap up our podcast here and we're going to have to have a serious talk. See, that's the difference between commas and periods. It's I'm deporting you full stop, you're gay, full stop. Not I'm deporting you, comma, you're gay.
Speaker 2Gotta get the right punctuation.
Speaker 1The right punctuation makes it no longer a hate crime.
Speaker 2But so yeah, 2 on Ice figure skating. For some reason I thought you kept up on that one, but I guess not.
Speaker 1Yeah, you'd think I would, but no, was it good? I mean, should it have died? You know what? I'm gonna put a special rule for the end of this episode. When we get to the end, we each get one wish for a show that would come back.
Speaker 2I wouldn't say that Two on Ice deserved to die, but I also don't really see how far the premise could actually go, because it's basically an amateur figure skater that mimicked a famous figure skater actually gets to meet with her and be two partners.
Speaker 1That's cute.
Speaker 2That does sound like a movie. I'll probably read at some point it's a cute love story kind of thing.
Speaker 1I'm low-key mad that Sakamodio Days got an anime. Anywho. What's next on your list? I think Kaguya-sama was a vault chaptersama was a vault chapter it was a vault chapter but I will say best ending I've seen in a manga in a long time. It was yeah, I'm going to say it. Its ending was full metal alchemist good. It was a consistent comedy that actually. So you know how a lot of comedies paralyze the statics quo.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Every character in that had an arc and like. So you know how I deeply hate Love Triangles because they're stupid.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Kaguya-sama managed to go its entire runtime Love Triangle 3 free, with just two leads. So close but not quite ready to take a step, and then it ends with them taking the step satisfyingly. I'm like good, this was a good slow burn romance. You didn't pad it with any bullshit. Good job, 10 out of 10. Recover retire proud.
Speaker 2But so next on the list that actually did end very unsatisfyingly and only made it chapter 19, was Shadow Eliminators.
Speaker 1Good be dead.
Speaker 2Yeah, that was just the most generic of generic Exorcist mangas.
Speaker 1Not only was that the most generic of generic, I feel like it came out with like yeah, the same week as the Kyoto Necromancer one, the same week.
Speaker 2Kyoto Necromancer survived a few more chapters, but so that was in April, then in June. Green Green Greens I'm pretty sure those are vault chapters.
Speaker 1I think they released a random hiatus and they came back for a bit and I actually don't know if it's ended. I think they released a random hiatus and they came back for a bit and I actually don't know if it's ended, I think they released vault chapters in conjunction with certain tackleball releases like the physical book. It ended June 26th. Oh, so it is over. All right, I really liked it. It was the basic premise of Mega man X. Yeah, oh so it is over, alright.
Speaker 1I really liked it. It was the basic premise of Mega man X. Yeah, I liked that fair enough no further notes. You gave me. You gave me a Mega man Zero manga without the Capcom cheesiness of it. Yeah, I'm happy with that, like the premise is just so good. Human girl protected robot.
Speaker 2Uncle done the the premise is just so good Human girl protected robot uncle. Done. The chapters they have on the Shonen Jump app don't go all the way to the end yet, so we'll see.
Speaker 1Well, I can look forward to that.
Speaker 2But Green Green, green's the golf one that I didn't read, but you did.
Speaker 1I liked it because of the same rant I just gave about Kageyama of if you're going to give me two characters in a will-they-won't-neigh relationship built over a mutual shared interest with mild hatred, I vibe with that. I enjoy the idea. It's like we're both passionate about this thing, so it's like we win each other over through hard work and effort and golf. I can get behind that hard work and effort and golf.
Speaker 2I can get behind that Like.
Speaker 1I'm a sucker for a Rock Lee right Like he's like anytime. A character like works themselves till they start drawing blood to be good at a thing, I can respect it. So, all in all, would I recommend it to anyone? No, what are you, shenron, to bring it back? No, did I enjoy it? Yeah.
Speaker 2And then also in June. This one only made it to Chapter 17. I was a little bit sad. I thought it had a lot of potential. But beer and anemone.
Speaker 1That series really made me think of Hell's Paradise like a lot, and it's like I'm not surprised it didn't live in Show and jump, because it was like too dark and edgy. It's like, yeah, like it was very interesting and probably could have used a bit more time to see if it was going somewhere.
Speaker 2I agree. But so then we move on to July, where kaiju, number 8 b-side, did his last chapter.
Speaker 1We already talked about Kaiju no 8. If it ends now, I'm satisfied with it. Probably hits my top 10 manga, honestly, it did nothing wrong. It's like it was a good example of Saitama-ing your way in a show by giving your character compelling other stakes.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1Because, like, yeah, he gets to tie up most of the bosses and they actually threw him in jail and tried to execute him for it. Because, like, I hate the bully, the superpower kid trope, but I do appreciate that. No, this guy is a Godzilla and we should probably put him down, unless he can control being Godzilla.
Speaker 2Yeah, that makes sense. But so then in August it looks like we got the last chapter of my Hero Academia.
Speaker 1People were so miserable about that, they released another epilogue and then people were still miserable about that. Yeah, it looks like they didn't do. The end of my Hero.
Speaker 2Academia Looks like they didn't bother with point one or point two of chapter 430, though they just had more chapters.
Speaker 1So to spoil the end of my Hero Academia. I'm going to start off a question to you what was Deku's motivation? What did he want to actually want to do?
Speaker 2Didn't he just want to be a hero like All Might?
Speaker 1Want to be a hero like All Might right.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Over the course of the story he gets 30 superpowers and loses all his superpowers. He ends the series as a teacher and then they build him an Iron man suit. Oh, he learned nothing. He is the same character. He learned nothing from the story of my Hero Academia, that's funny.
Speaker 1He beats the villain by using his superpowers and then there wasn't a lesson like oh, you could have been a hero with no powers. They don't give him that, they don't give him a final fight where they don't let him do the Edward Elric final fight of I'll just beat God to death.
Speaker 2Right, he like doesn't do anything heroic or learn anything.
Speaker 1He just broke his body repeatedly till he beat up the bad guy and then got an Iron man suit, which wasn't even like a side plot. I would have been so happy if the plot of my Hero Academia from episode one was Deku builds an Iron man suit and keeps upgrading it over the show because he has no superpower. That would have been an immensely better manga, as if he was Batman in Superman's universe. But no, it was just Katra bullshit, katra bullshit. He's like oh, I have to sacrifice. Here's the bit. So in the final fight, when Khan against the bad guy was, he had to sacrifice each of his superpowers, one at a time, to break the bad guy's superpowers.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1The problem with that is, giving up your superpowers would only really have emotional stakes if he started with them, right so he has no powers. He's given all the powers, and then he acquires even more powers. Then he gives up those powers, right there's has no powers, he's given all the powers, and then he acquires even more powers, then he gives up those powers, right.
Speaker 1There's no arc there. It's not like he cut off his arm. He was given a freebie and then used the freebie and is now a hero. That'd be like if I won $1,000, and then gave $1,000 to Charity. I'm not that good a person. In that circumstance. A dollar's the charity I'm not that good a person in that circumstance. Yeah, I'm at best neutral. And then they did a shipping thing and then a not shipping thing and people were like they didn't pair up all the teenagers who are now adults. I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2I don't know if this actually counts, but also in August they released the last chapter of my Hero Academia Team Up Missions.
Speaker 1You know, the my Hero Academia Vigilante spinoff was actually pretty good, not related yeah.
Speaker 2I think that one ended in 2023, though.
Speaker 1That was by far the best chapter of my Hero Academia, the side story spinoff, with a character who like so. His moral thing is he wanted to go to hero school and missed the entrance exam because he was saving someone's life, and now has to like live on the street being a freelance superhero. Yeah, it's like oh you're too heroic to make it into hero school, so now you're going around committing petty acts of kindness, trying to not get arrested. That's great.
Speaker 2So much more compelling. Next move on to September, where Kyokuto Necromancer already got mentioned once, because it started coming out the same week as Dear Amenity.
Speaker 1We can see our exact comments on Shadow Eliminators from our thoughts on Kyoko Necromancer.
Speaker 2Unless you have any other hot takes. The ending made absolutely no sense. It brought no closure to the series.
Speaker 1I'm fine with that, because it never had any opening either. It's just bad.
Manga Series Endings Review
Speaker 2Anyways, yeah, it looks like Twin Star Exorcist is the next one to end on September 3rd.
Speaker 1I'm noticing a theme. It's like all the exorcists all used up all the oxygen and they all burned out. Yeah well, it's like having six exorcist series in your manga because some in your manga collection somehow backfired fired.
Speaker 2Yeah, that one was a really, really weird one, because there's this like forced romance that doesn't really grow that organically over the course of the show, but somehow at the end of it they're completely in love and have a child together.
Speaker 1Well, this might be a culture thing, might not like so. I'm anti-arranged marriage because I love freedom, choice, not subjugating people. Joy, I don't believe. I don't like that. It's like. So the idea that's like we're forcing these two characters to spend time together and then, when they're forced to spend time together, they organically fall in love works if you do it organically yeah, the romance arc of we're telling them they have to get married, they rebel against it, they hate it and then they, because because of their mutual hatred of it, end up falling in love
Speaker 2there's something that could happen there, but it didn't no, they definitely just fully accepted that that was what they were supposed to do eventually and also the characters.
Speaker 1Both had personalities of a brick. Tell me about either of the protagonist's personalities, I dare you yeah, I dare you Um.
Speaker 2Yeah, I got nothing.
Speaker 1Yep, I'm fine with all these exorcists dying.
Speaker 2Shoujo. No, no, that's a good one they got Like. I was surprised by that one.
Speaker 1So how did you feel about its ending?
Speaker 2Um well, I can't tell if it was forced to end or if that's actually the full story that the author was trying to tell.
Speaker 1Which is a good problem to have. That means they did their job pretty well.
Speaker 2It's like uh it was really the basic premise of a human helping a robot destroy humanity.
Speaker 1Seems like something I would write. Let's be honest, um, but that's concerningly up my alley.
Speaker 2How committed to the bit can they be? And it turns out that they were pretty much 100% committed to the bit. Basically, once the human companion died, the robot just went and killed pretty much everybody. Or rather, they had a large-scale war that eventually ended with negotiation, peace talks and the robots being recognized as sentient and whatnot.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, I just support that entire manga, and if it chose to go out on its own terms, good for it.
Speaker 2Then there's one.
Speaker 1This is probably top on my list of what I would actually revive, but on September 8th the last chapter of psych house got released so I gave this rant a few weeks ago when talking about psychic detective chozero and I was also talking about the new series brains eluding detective one which will come back to me later in name and the problem with psych house and why it died and basically committed suicide. It forgot to set up stakes in the first 17 chapters. It just interviewed super power people with no antagonistic force whatsoever.
Speaker 2I really felt like there was a slow burn and that they were going to get somewhere, but then it just you at least needed a dude in a trench coat, in the background of a scene or something. I guess a foible of publishing weekly in a magazine is that the true slow burn series are just not.
Speaker 1Also, people got ADHD over the last 30 years. I was watching a different podcast because other podcasts exist, spoilers, and they were talking about how it's such a boomer comment to make. But all modern anime try and get the character to fight God within 100 chapters and it's like, yeah, no, they really do. You go to Jujutsu Kaisen and it's like, no, we're going to fight the most powerful thing in the universe by chapter 80. Gotta go, go, go. We don't have time for this shit.
Speaker 2Gotta go.
Speaker 1But yes, we'll see if we get to the end of the list if your wish changes, but right now you wish to revive Psychevs.
Speaker 2I do, I well. Yeah, I mean it kind of has a spiritual successor.
Speaker 1But it's a weird thing is I liked the characters but I forgot to have a plot. I that is to have a plot. That is fair. He had a fun power set.
Speaker 2There's a lot that could have happened there. But the next on the list that ended in September is JJK.
Speaker 1So they had to release a second ending because the first ending didn't hit hard enough. So JJK's weird right, Because it makes perfect sense that the final boss was the boss from the first chapter and defeat Sukuna and Ceres. But I was waiting for there to be a twist, and there just kind of wasn't one. The whole calling game went nowhere.
Speaker 2Yeah, Gedo just died and Sukuna just got murked. I made the comment a while back of what I thought was going to happen, and I'm shocked. I was wrong. Yeah, Gedo just died and Sukuna just got murked. Well, eventually, anyways.
Speaker 1I made the comment a while back of what I thought was going to happen and I'm shocked I was wrong. Where, like they defeat Sukuna but the merge happens and the final boss is cursed Tengen, who absorbs all the dead people into some horrifying thing, and like stuff happens. It's like the ending was so meh. It's like the ending was so meh. I almost wanted JJK Shippuden, where they do like a time skip and then like keep going, because it just didn't feel impactful enough.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1It's weird but, like Sukuna, kind of felt like a punk because they had 10 people jump him and none of those people actually died to him.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's true. Nobody actually died to Sukuna.
Speaker 1Like Sukuna was a punk blood shooty guy, got more kills. Yuji got more kills technically, but yeah, then they're like another epilogue to be like we'll show that yuda ends up awesome like yuda wasn't even your protagonist.
Speaker 2He should have been, though.
Speaker 1Not really, yuta was like the weirdest self-insert fic moment, like they're selling out your characters, right? Imagine you're watching Bleach and then you're like you know what, who's really cool Toshiro? And then you just shift to Toshiro in the middle and then have a Toshiro flashback manga and be like, yeah, toshio is cooler. I'm like, but that's not what you wrote. You don't get to be like, oh, my character I wrote in the beta in the pitch was better than the one I ended up going with.
Speaker 2Better switch back.
Speaker 1And there's no logical reason he should have had copy powers. Also Yuju's mom, being Kenjaku, never did anything. I hate secret lineage as a plot point. They did that for you to to have. Oh, he is actually from a. I hate secret lineage as a plot point more than anything of ooh, my parents are special, so I get to be special. That is the opposite of the point of most of these shows. What is truly unforgivable, though, is having your, the main villain, be your mother, and that meaning nothing.
Speaker 2He didn't fight Kenjaku.
Speaker 1He never met Kenjaku. I think I peaked my mic on that one the idea that Yuji never actually met Kenjaku.
Speaker 2I don't know if he ever did or not.
Speaker 1No, he didn't.
Speaker 2Yuji had nothing to do with the stakes of his show.
Speaker 1He was the most passive character in his own series. But you're right, had the series just followed Yuta the entire time he would have been the better protagonist, but we spent the entire first hundred chapters following Yuji sorry and see what really.
Speaker 2What really confused me was I read chapter zero as chapter zero and so you know I see yuta and then suddenly yuta's just gone for like 150 chapters and then he shows up again and he just randomly has copy powers and he's a super badass that pretends to kill yuta and he's like what, or?
Speaker 1Or he pretends to kill.
Speaker 2Yuji.
Speaker 1Having a demon bride with a cursed sword is cooler. Less is more guys, less is more. It's like they're like to Yuji. I gave him punches that separate souls and blood claws and apparently I can punch someone's flashback-y thing. I'm like you kind of set that up, but also no, just no, no flashback punch for you. You don't need a flashback punch.
Speaker 2I think the only other series that ended in 2024 was just one second here, almost there.
Speaker 1World Trigger. Right, please tell me it's World Trigger, or Hunter x Hunter, even better.
Speaker 2Yo-Kai Buster Murakami.
Speaker 1Pass Deserve to die. I will not cry at its funeral.
Speaker 2I found it genuinely amusing, but also like you also will not be crying at its.
Speaker 1You're not going to pay $200 to fly out to its funeral. Come on.
Speaker 2I am not.
Speaker 1Is Watch which Watch done yet?
Speaker 2Uh, I don't think so. It's just dead to me, Although I mean, maybe it is Because I haven't actually seen it on the list for a while.
Speaker 1So I think our follow-up's going to be I think we'll dive in quickly to things that are currently going and then wrap up the episode.
Speaker 2Witch Watch is on chapter 156 and there's a new chapter coming in 11 days Nice.
Speaker 1So let's go with new things that have started, that are like under 30 chapters that have come in to replace what has died. So, shinobi, undercover, have you been following that one at all?
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, that one's a good one.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, it's basically the premise of Full Metal Panic, but they can't get away with having guns anymore.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1I stand by it. Like the joke of Full Metal Panic was soldier kid in school, super good at military, socially awkward and they kind of like it's like Gen Z, full Metal Panic and I like Full Metal Panic, don't like Gen Z, but get what you get.
Speaker 2Another series that I was talking about, man. I wished for it to be Psych House.
Speaker 1Yeah, we already talked about Psych.
Speaker 2House. No, no, no, this Shiba Inu Rooms rooms? I don't even think it's show and jump.
Speaker 1I think it's just some weird web comic I don't know, but it doesn't.
Speaker 2I really enjoy it too. I think it feels kind of like it's having that same kind of slow burn that psychos was having, and I'm like excited to see where things actually end up going.
Speaker 1It feels like it's a webtoon, not a manga. Weirdly, you know what I mean. Right, it feels like I'm reading one of those four comic gag strips which I'm giving it a lot more wee lay because it's not trying to be serious. I don't know, it's fun.
Speaker 2I think it's very cute, wholesome and fun, and that's what I liked about Psych House, which is why I'm, you know, shiba Inu, and it seems like it's actually gonna like go somewhere and then.
Speaker 1Super Psychic Policeman Chozo was made for me specifically. There's a bit where he just enters Yu-Gi-Oh tournaments, reads mines and loses. That's funny and it's trying to fill the Gintama energy of being the series in Show and Jump that's allowed to make fun of the other series in Show and Jump.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean it's 45 chapters and it has no consistent plot though.
Speaker 1Yeah, but he's going to straight up Kamehameha somebody at some point. It's going to make me happy.
Speaker 2Fair enough.
Speaker 1Like he's going to say the words Kamehameha. Like usually in Show and Jump, there's always some kind of gintama where it's like this series literally exists. To riff on the other things in our magazine.
Speaker 2Ooh, For a series under 30 chapters. I am loving Astro Baby.
Speaker 1Astro Baby, Like we were talking a bit about that one at the evil plant earlier. Name's eluding me right now.
Speaker 2Uh, dieraminamine. Yeah, one of the evil plant. Earlier name's eluding me right now. Uh, dear amenamine.
Speaker 1Yeah, that kind of art style is deeply upsetting. Astral baby is deeply upsetting and it can stay. Because it is deeply upsetting, I'm gonna bump up the chapter count a bit and go to astral royale.
Speaker 2I'm surprised it's still alive uh well, I mean, gangsters are kind of a unique concept and although the show isn't really about gangsters, it's like one piece isn't really about pirates, it's about sailors, and naruto is not about ninjas. It's kind of like that, like it's gangster themed, not gangster you know exactly, and it's like now they're in some sort of big tournament and it's like they're gonna see more cool and interesting powers and political struggles.
Speaker 1You know, what it makes me think of the most. Actually, it makes me think of how Black Clover is just Naruto but Wizards, and I'm like oh yeah, you're not Astro Royale, you're just Naruto but Yakuza.
Speaker 2Naruto, but Yakuza yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, which I mean. I'm not going to execute it over it, but I'm surprised it's still going.
Speaker 2I'm low-key mad.
Speaker 1Newt Exorcist is still going. I know it's above our chapter limit, but I would cancel that to bring back Psych House. Easy, easy trade.
Speaker 2Oh, another really bizarre series, bug Ego.
Speaker 1That. I am compelled, as I'm going to use it. I am compelled as all I'm going to use it. I'm compelled as fuck by that. What is happening?
Speaker 2Where is this going? Are they in a simulation?
Speaker 1Are we in a simulation? How many drugs is this man on? Oh, I made my torso longer and now I eat peas and I keep eating them until I get sick and it's fucked up. Oh man, I dropped two F-bombs. Shit is wild. I don't know if I can call it good, it's just wild.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, we'll see whether or not it's actually good, but it is certainly very unique.
Speaker 1Yeah, it gets a pass. It needs to get at least. I feel like it needs 50 chapters to even understand what the fuck? Very, it's very unique. Yeah, no, it gets a pass, Like I, it needs to get at least. I feel like it needs 50 chapters to even understand what the fuck. I use three F-bombs Like it's. It is baffling. I am loving it, but it makes Jojo's look insensible. Jojo's bizarre adventure is easier to follow.
Speaker 2Yeah, all follow. Yeah, all right Actually. So, just as a random side note, jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 6 was re-released weekly for the past 158 weeks, I guess and that actually did also come to an end in 2024. I think it's so much better in the next part so much better. I mean, that's more of a re-release, so it doesn't really count.
Speaker 1Let's be honest, JoJo's has a magic trick going where it can go forever. It's a good magic trick. It's called switching your entire cast, paragraph setting and plot to last forever. It's basically a Roachie Myers exact tactic. All right, to last forever. It's basically a Roachie Myers exact tactic, Alright. So another series I've been really enjoying, even though like so as much as I dunk on like fan service-y bullshit, anime Sidcraft is wholesome and it makes me happy.
Speaker 1There's some scenes that made my eyes roll over but I'm like, okay, he's just dumb and it's adorable yeah it's like it's not a love triangle, it's a poly cue of idiots. So like, first off, like we got the detective who just wants to be in a romance manga, which is already funny right right stumbling into cases because he's doomed to do so.
Speaker 1He genetically inherited being sherlock holmes, which is like the best way to do this itama is be like I don't actually want my superpower at all and it actively works against my interests. I'm on a date? Ah crap, it's a serial killer. Of course it is. Interests. I'm on a date? Oh crap, it's a serial killer, of course it is.
Speaker 1Then because he's socially awkward, he applies for an assistant who he can't hit on because he'd be uncomfortable and he's unsmooth with women. The assistant takes that to mean oh, who is the romance author who's writing the romances he's addicted to, which are about him in a perfect circle. That is genius, that is amazing. And then there's just a hymn detective to balance it out like that is perfect flow. Going on, like even the hymn detective's like, oh yeah, we need to nail this dance competition because it's a dance competition. He's like, oh no, my one weakness being in a rom-com. And then his assistants lounge singing on the stage because their one weakness being in a rom-com, and everyone's weakness, is that they're in the wrong genre but are actually completely competent.
Speaker 2And Crafty is a great series.
Speaker 1So, even though I'm like, ah, stupid anime fan service bullshit, I'm like, but it's compelling, it's very compelling. Like I said, it's not a love triangle, it's a bunch of idiots and that's what's making it work. There's no angst anywhere. Also, they like from episode two are like and then the fiend craft organization made me kill my sister. I'm like oh right, there's some really dark shit going on in the background. This guy was just chopping off people's legs to offer to his paralyzed daughter's grave.
Speaker 2That just happened in the background of this rom-com. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1I'm like what's happening in the background of this rom-com Actual serial killing.
Speaker 2Okay, so, like Sid and Brad can definitely get into being a serious series. Well, yeah, now they're on the cruise ship and there's another bomb on board and it's like connected to the person who's like right beside his assistant right like, there's like layers going on.
Speaker 1You know what it?
Speaker 2is it's?
Speaker 1Spy Family has terrible release schedule and pacing. I love the idea of Spy.
Speaker 2Family has terrible release schedule and pacing.
Speaker 1I love the idea of Spy Family, but it comes out too slow to be invested. This is like the best part of Spy Family. I actually love a good whodunit caper, high stakes. Where's the bomb fake? I don't know how the idiot writing this romance story is actually also writing a good detective story, because those are hard. But there's a few times where it's super obvious. A few times like times like oh, you got me because, like the good detective story is, use a filler piece of viewer, get a piece of together just early enough to come on, guys, you almost got this right yeah, no ride or die for said craft we'll see how you feel next year, but yep, so have no reason to exist but are kind of wholesome.
Speaker 1Hema 10 there's just two characters who should be dating and I'm not really sure what the problem is well, the problem is that the main character thinks he should be dating is his school crush just pure love triangle.
Speaker 2I hate myself that I read this every week it is uh, somehow it's cathartic to watch these people struggle through their romantic lives uh, it's everything I just said.
Speaker 1Said craft was good for it's bad at, because like, yeah, no, you just, you just marry, like you've solved it. You guys should be able to figure this out. It's pretty straightforward, it's a math equation where x equals 1. What is? X plus x? It's 2, carl, it's 2.
Speaker 2I never could have figured that out.
Speaker 1Next up ET the Witch Eh.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's not really doing anything particularly interesting.
Speaker 1So hot take. You make a superpower system where women get superpowers, and then you give a man the best superpower. What are you really saying?
Speaker 2Yeah, it is a very bizarre premise.
Speaker 1Well, it's not even a bizarre premise. You're just not doing anything with it. Like so, when you have a character, be like you can go the route of. Everyone bullies me because I'm six feet tall, with perfect skin and orange hair and I'm like what. Why are they bullying you? I don't understand.
Speaker 2For this one.
Speaker 1I'm like the character. The protagonist has no actual emotional hardship.
Speaker 2So why would I give a shit?
Speaker 1about him. It's not like they're doing some crazy gender politics look how much he has to suffer for being a trans person. No, they're not doing that. They're not going like even Rama and a half was more ambitious of at least the character gets splashed with water and it has repercussions, because then they get hit on. So at least that had something to say. This doesn't have anything to say at all about anything, and I think I skipped Ultimate Exorcist Kyoshi because see earlier comments about every Exorcist series.
Speaker 2Ah yeah, Right now he's in a training arc because he was not ultimate enough yet, I guess.
Speaker 1I like that show better when it was called Blue Exorcist. I like that better when it was called D Gray man. I like that better when it was called Yu Yu Hakusho, and I like that better when it was called Dragon Ball Z.
Speaker 2You like D Gray man more than you liked Blue Exorcist.
Speaker 1Nah, it's just more like Blue Exorcist exists because D Grayman exists.
Speaker 2It's like they took so much of it.
Speaker 1Technically, I would throw all of those in the fire to get like a Trigger Studios animated Soul Eater rehab bash. That does the actual plot. Soul Eater was great and then Fire Force decided to shove a bunch of fanservice in and Soul Eater had none of the characters. Soul Eater could have been good, it just needs to do my anime rule of age up all your characters by four years across the board for every anime, and all of them are better, unless people go to jail.
Speaker 2Unless people do go to jail when the characters are appropriately aged.
Speaker 1Next up Kagura Banshee, it's chapter 63. It's great, it's just good. It is by far the best weekly thing in Show and Jump.
Speaker 2Yeah, I would agree with that.
Manga Series Discussion and Reviews
Speaker 1Like, yeah, no, it's like, oh, look at my complex, well-written setting where people do things that make rational sense and fights are cool and power system is reasonable. Sense and fights are cool and power system is reasonable. Oh yeah, the blind swordsman, who was a war hero, known as the Massacre, when we gave him a super weapon back turned out to be sketchy. That was at least a shocking, dramatic twist of all time, and I was so here for it, because the character's like did you think there was a reason we took away their super weapons? I'm like, oh yeah, right.
Speaker 2I am quite curious what exactly it is that they quote. Unquote covered up.
Speaker 1Right, but like it made so much sense to be like yeah, we have the sword bearers and the swords separated after the war, we gave the sword bearer back the sword. Maybe we shouldn't have did that. Maybe there's a reason. Yeah, people are just being that.
Speaker 2Maybe there's a reason yeah.
Speaker 1People were just being lame. Maybe the death swords corrupt people in some way. There's a thought like you watched it due to the guy last week. That's a good plot twist, by the way. You literally watch Baron Von auction hall go mad holding one of the swords and then you give a sword to a dude. It's like, oh right.
Speaker 2The source might be rigged. Uh yeah, with their like eternal contract and whatnot.
Speaker 1That's like what? Wow, right then spy family, like I said, would be better if it came out more frequently. It's a petty complaint, but like I would like it more, but like it's moving that's so slow and the current plot is so interesting but it'll be like three years before we get any clarification as to whether or not there's aliens which could go either way, and I'm happy for that. I'm shocked Rory Dragon's still alive.
Speaker 2Well, I think the author also had health issues and stopped publishing for a while, but yeah, now they seem to have come back. I'm here for all these cute, wholesome and fun series.
Speaker 1I like Slice of Life, Good action. We enjoy more than Slice of Life, but we enjoy Slice of Life better than mediocre action. So it's like if we're going to ask what our favorite things are? It's probably Chainsaw man, kaiju and Kaguya Bushi.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Feel free to add the title. I missed in there, but I think that's my top three in show and jump right now.
Speaker 2I would say so too.
Speaker 1I think those are excellent action series, then we skip all the medium stuff that are like action comedy hybrids and just go straight for the comedy. By the throat it's like okay, if you're gonna be in action, be serious, well written and wild and if you're gonna be derpy commit, commit to the derp like rory drag.
Speaker 1The new spoiler alert is oh, apparently she has super strength that no one noticed till today and that made me happy, because it's like she's like, oh, can you lift the rope? Yeah, I guess, but it's kind of heavy just walking with like 100 pounds of rope and everyone's like, wait, can you lift that? It's like, oh, you yourself haven't realized you have super strength yet.
Speaker 2She has not realized.
Speaker 1no, One advantage it has over Chozo and Psychos is it left us with a huge mystery, a very active mystery. The fuck is her dad.
Speaker 2Oh man, this is an R-rated episode for sure.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I went nuts with it. Who would have thought today would be the day I just? I guess I'm on. I have strong feelings about anime dying Usually joy, but now that we've made it pretty much near the end of our episode also, Dan is ridiculous. I don't know if it's good it's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2I would definitely agree that it's one of those series that's just wild, unpredictable and fun to tune in every week to see what happens next.
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, they also went above and beyond on it's animated series and fun to tune in every week to see what happens next. Oh yeah, Like it's. They also went above and beyond on its animated series, which, to be fair, is real easy. It has the One Punch man thing, Remember, where I've complained. It's like how does One Punch man have the best artist they could possibly find doing One Punch man?
Speaker 2Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1Same problem with Dandedan. It's same problem with Dan to Dan. It's like why is the person drawing a mantis strip of boxer briefs better than the entirety of every series that was on that cancelled list for art? Laughing. Why is the guy you bought, you paid money for to do Boruto a worse artist than the Dan to Dan guy? Laughing? Why does Garou vs Saitama have the best fight scene in manga? It is like the prettiest drawn fight scene. They animated it. It was a gift in the web release. That is insane. But then it's just like oh yeah, no, we're just gonna give our billion dollar franchises to bad fanfic artists. That is insane. And then it's just like oh yeah, no, we're just gonna give our billion dollar franchises to bad fanfic artists anyway, we've been granting a wish to kill one currently running series to resurrect another.
Speaker 1Who do you pick? This is subbing in for a random question of the week uh, well, I mean remember you have to kill one to bring one back see, well, I mean, remember, you have to kill one to bring one back.
Speaker 2See, it's a toss up hunter.
Speaker 1Hunter needs to die it's a mercy killing it's a kindness but then like world trigger is also like pretty needs to die. Something drastic needs to happen to bring that thing back to life anyways.
Speaker 2But then, like, world Trigger is also like pretty Needs to die and something drastic needs to happen to bring that thing back to life anyways. I don't know if it's good, or Boruto, like there's just three really strong contenders for worst running series in the like. I guess I haven't even looked at Roboco. I know that that's going to be your number one pick for what to kill.
Speaker 1No, I can't kill it because I haven't read it. I don't actually know how bad it is. I'm just assuming it's bad this whole time, Because I can only get three chapters in and I'm like this is just insulting.
Speaker 2Well, anyway, those are my three top three worst series currently running.
Speaker 1You know what, if you kill three, which three are you bringing?
Speaker 2back to take their place. I actually really did like Mama Yu Yu.
Speaker 1Alright, so who are you killing to bring back Mama Yu Yu?
Speaker 2Well, I mean, I'm going to kill all three of them.
Speaker 1I want to know one for one just for my own edification.
Speaker 2Well, I mean, I would rather see Mama Yu Yu than Borutouto, for sure boruto shiv.
Speaker 1See, the thing about boruto is it's so comically bad. I get a weird joy from reading it like I like hating on it, so that's why it's not in my top three. I'll murder because I enjoy hating boruto because every week it's like a new kind of bad and I can text you every week about how mad I am at Boruto. But I respect your choice to kill it. That is reasonable. You made a good equivalent exchange here um, yeah, boruto is dying what are you trading world? Trigger for hmm, world trigger um.
Speaker 2Boruto is dying. What are you trading World Trigger for, hmm? World Trigger Um, hmm. Well see, that's a tough choice, because World Trigger is reasonably well-written. It's just stuck in a terrible, terrible spiral, hmm.
Speaker 1It's stuck on a loading screen.
Speaker 2You know as much as I respect Shoujo Null for ending, I would rather see Shoujo Null more Shoujo Null than World Trigger.
Speaker 1Alright, you got one wish left, so Hunter, Hunter you're mercy killing, which to be fair, Like I've said before, this could be fixed. But he's not going to have the portal guy open a door and have Gon springboard out and punch Ahsoka in the face and then we're back on.
Speaker 2He is not.
Speaker 1However, if a door opened and Gon and Killia jumped out and just punched people in the face and that's how we got out of this plot arc, it could be saved hmm, let's see.
Speaker 2Hmm, well, I think the last series I would actually want to resurrect. I really really did enjoy Martial Arts, master Asumi alright, his pacing was a little bit rushed and he ran like went straight for the final boss, but like I don't know, I had had history. Strong, it's a disciple can achieve vibes and I really enjoyed that very fair, all right.
Speaker 1So the first one I'm killing is I am putting down ultimate exorcist kiyoshi. It does not need to exist. I'm killing it in the crew. I am smothering that baby in a book with the pickle bucket it's falling into.
Speaker 1Has to be done yeah and I want to bring back siren, but I think that's too big of a deep cut, so instead I'm this is gonna be a hot take I bring back jujitsu kaijin and giving it a time skip and following yuta in Africa. I actually think Jujutsu Kaisen ended too early because Sukuna wasn't satisfying as a final boss. They got the band back together. Now the band needs to do some stuff.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1So I'm actually bringing back JJK shockingly for my first resurrection.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1My second murder for my first resurrection Right. My second murder straight up murder of running series. I'm probably going to wrap up Undead. Unlocked needs to end soon, but I think it's going to do it on its own?
Speaker 2I think so too. She did just lose her memories.
Speaker 1So I'm going to get rid of News. Exorcist.
Speaker 2Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1Because that's added nothing to anything anywhere and I think I'm going to use that to bring back Duran Duran. I know it's outside of the like expiration date.
Speaker 2It's worth it. Yeah, that would be Dorodororan. Oh man, that was such a good show, or a series.
Speaker 1So, like I am happy to bring that back, even though I'm stretching it a bit, I'm not going wild with it. It's not like I'm trying to bring back Alien Area and, lastly, I am executing. You executed a lot of the ones I wanted dead.
Speaker 2I'm really tempted to kill.
Speaker 1Ichi the witch to put something better, but I'm going to finish off Witch Watch oh yeah, that definitely needs.
Speaker 2I should have put that on my list. That's one of the very few series that I have actually genuinely given up on.
Speaker 1So I'm gonna kill Witchwatch, and it's kind of funny because a lot of things that ended that I liked ended good enough that I don't feel compelled to resurrect them. It's like I don't feel the need to bring back Mashal or Dr Stone or do retry. Those could just stay dead.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, do retry, that was a good one. 2023.
Speaker 1It was, but it can stay dead. You know what I'm just trying to really think? I don't know. Nothing is immediately coming to mind out of all those series we listed that died that I really want to bring back. I like I, I want to bring back doran doran, because they forced it to end and there was a lot more there right you beat me to martial master azumi, out of like the three punching ones that aired that week, that was the one that gets to live right I'm not touching each of those family deadly sins with a 10 foot pole that was a weird series
Speaker 1it wasn't like the error bug one, or is it weird? Weird, let's see. Definitely not. It's like I'm starting to look through, scroll back a little further, see if there's anything worth resurrecting, but no, I'm just going to kill off Witch Watch to also be allowed to kill off each of the Witch. I'm just affing to Because, honestly, like I was saying, even Kaiju, I'm fine with that just coming to an end. Sometimes you've got to let it die. Kill the past if you have to. I don't know what I'm quoting, but I've heard that line recently.
Speaker 2Enter the Gungeon.
Speaker 1I don't think so, although I've been playing a lot of Slay the Spire recently, not related to anything, but yeah, so I think that was our take. Is Duran killed before it's time?
Speaker 2Definitely.
Speaker 1If they paste it, oh right. Actually, hot take, I'm a. Bring back the breaker.
Speaker 2You know, I think there might actually be another season of the breaker. It's just it's a, it's a man. Why so it's not? I have no idea where you are Anymore Right.
Speaker 1It's just, it's a manhwa, so it's not.
Speaker 2I have no idea where you would.
Speaker 1You don't see it in manga anymore. Right, you know what ended. That wrapped itself up really nicely, even though it's a bit further back. Maguk Chan, God of Destruction, amused me every week consistently.
Speaker 2It wasn't good, but it amused me consistently. I thought it was excellent. Personally, again, it's kind of that slice of life, but like the way that it ended, it was so beautiful.
Speaker 1I wanted Ginka and Gluna to be good, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, that's one that just got that one I said, gil, that was also another weird snow-related one that was just like what is this?
Speaker 1It's so weird when they just double down on arbitrary themes. It's like well, I guess we're doing the three punchy manga at once to see if one of them survives. Let's launch four Exorcist series Also. I'd bring that heart gear in an instant, but I'd also bump it up to weekly releases.
Anime Series Resurrections and Reviews
Speaker 2Ah, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1And with that thank you for everyone for tuning in to Carl and Richard present, Deep Space and Dragons for our show and jump roundup four. I hope we only did three and this is four. There's just a missing third episode. And remember to floss.
Speaker 2And you know other forms of self-care because and you know other forms of self self care because you know self care is is good for you says, says the writer who's day up to four in the morning every day over Christmas break.
Speaker 1Bye, bye, yeah. I really thought I'd have more three things to resurrect, but I was like going back through the list and I'm like, no, no, I think I want to do more mercy killing and we need some fresh meat in here. Hey, bring it back Shadow Eliminators. Absolutely not. I'd like to heck with it. I'll just bring back Yu Yu Hakusho. Okay.
