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Epusode 81: Detective Pikapohl and Exploring Hollywood Quirks and Ryan Reynolds' Rise
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Ever wondered how a property manager's misadventures could rival a writer's struggles for comedic gold? We kick things off with Karl's unexpected plunge into property management, complete with lawn mowing, graffiti cleaning, and an encounter with a rather unsanitary encampment situation. Richard and Karl's hilarious banter will have you laughing out loud as they compare their daily woes, proving that humor can be found even in the most unexpected places.
Next up, we scrutinize some Hollywood oddities with our take on object permanence in movies like "Jurassic Park" and "Detective Pikachu." Why does the T-Rex randomly appear out of nowhere? And what's the deal with that baffling Torterra Garden scene? We get into the nitty-gritty of "Detective Pikachu," questioning the movie’s storytelling choices and Ryan Reynolds' voice acting. Plus, we brainstorm an alternative plot that might just have made the Pokémon movie a bit more coherent.
Finally, we switch gears to spotlight Ryan Reynolds' career, particularly his journey from the poorly received "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" to the cult favorite "Deadpool." We discuss his unique blend of humor and dark themes, his other roles in films like "Green Lantern" and "Turbo," and the challenges of making successful sequels. Reynolds' "nihilistic charisma" is a focal point, showcasing how this trait sets him apart in the Marvel universe. Tune in for an insightful and entertaining discussion of one of Hollywood's most versatile and beloved actors.
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it's that time again. Richard and carl present deep space and dragons sponsored by nothing. Nothing, it sponsors us.
Speaker 2:I'm richard I am carl and I am actually a sponsor of this show, so yeah, nothing, were you not listening?
Speaker 1:ouch, come on. That setup and that burn had the perfect payoff. I set my trap card. I I waited, I struck I am a bad person today, and with that, this is Carl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I am. I already said that.
Speaker 1:Good, what's new with Carl?
Speaker 2:Oh, what's new with Carl? Well, Okay so.
Speaker 1:Sorry, you know that'd be hilarious if what new with Carl? Well okay. So Sorry, you know that'd be hilarious if.
Speaker 2:what new with Carl was you coughing and then just the episode was just dead noise. For the rest of it, no. So several years ago already my boss he decided that he didn't like renting the place that we had at our store. Yes, so he bought an empty lot and he built a store so that way he could be the landlord. And he was super, super happy when they had to close down 22nd Street, which is one of the main thoroughways in Saskatoon. Docs myself.
Speaker 1:You know we make these jokes, but you're're gonna look over and on the forehead is gonna be your iconic mustache and haircut as the carl tattoo on their forehead as they stare at you across the street and you're like uh-oh anyways.
Speaker 2:Um, he was super excited when they had to close down 22nd Street to hook water up to the brand new building. But unfortunately, one of the disadvantages of owning your own building is that then we are the building, the property management company like this because we own the building. Um, so, like I have been assigned, you know, several tasks of property management type. Staff tasks. Uh, you know things like mowing the lawn or or, uh, cleaning up graffiti or or. The one that I do most often is, uh, picking up garbage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, to be fair, like a lot of places, like even Boston Pizza, I've definitely done things like clean up graffiti, pick up garbage. So it's like not that abnormal. Like even if you rented the place, you'd probably still have some of those property management tasks, unless it was like in a mall or something.
Speaker 2:Hmm, Well, I mean, yeah, most of this kind of stuff was actually done by the property management company before, because it was, like you know, one of those like a strip mall.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense. Um and uh sorry, in retrospect, boston Pizza probably didn't rent their spice either.
Speaker 2:Um, but uh, technically I'm not employed by the uh rent their space either. Technically I'm not employed by the TJ's Mega Mall Incorporated, and it's not even a mega mall. There's literally just our store and a pharmacy and that's it. That's all that's in the building. But the point of the matter is that, particularly on the days that I, that I open, I have to go around and clean up garbage around the parking lot, because there are a lot of have you considered getting? A culinary intern.
Speaker 2:There are a lot of inconsiderate people in our neighborhood um, that makes sense to me, so today, uh, I I get there and I see, uh, there's like a pile of clothes and I'm like, oh, I feel bad because I'm almost definitely going to have to throw that in the garbage. But I'm probably throwing away all of their worldly possessions, like I don't know why they would leave them there, but I'll probably end up throwing them away. But I go inside, I do my other stuff first, and then my boss comes in. He's like oh yeah, there's like a, there's like a whole encampment on the side there. It's like, oh yeah, there's like a whole encampment on the side there. It's like, yeah, I saw that. He's like, oh, you'll have to throw it out.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, so, just because of the voice you choose to do for name-censored boss. That we've totally doxxed I picture. Thedrick every time, because that's the voice you use.
Speaker 2:It's the same one, I just you needed to know this. Please continue, sir. Cedric's voice is a little bit deeper. Oh, I'm Cedric, but it's like my boss's voice is like oh, I'm Carl's boss.
Speaker 1:I guess they're pretty similar. Yeah, like it's not nothing, it's enough to be worth making snide remarks about to be worth making snide remarks about, anyways.
Speaker 2:so because this is most likely homeless people stuff, I put on some gloves and I go outside and I start throwing in the garbage, and then there's like a blanket, there's like shoes, there's like clothes, there's like a shopping basket, there's like random garbage. I and I lift up, uh, this blanket and uh, I think that this person may have intentionally abandoned their stuff. Uh, because this blanket was literally covered in feces oh, lovely.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's the entire point of my story. It's like I pretty much first thing in the morning go to work, throw out a crap blanket.
Speaker 1:So some days when I'm in the field, I'm in the literary field, I am now. You get a lot of rejection letters. As a writer and it gets tough and I'm like some days I have a bad day about it and then I hear part of my kitchen job had me throw out a feces blanket. I'm like you know, you know it's okay. It's okay. They didn't accept my story this time. There's always more stories to send out, it's fine. So thank you for that yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:Just, I mean it's not like the worst day of my life or anything, but if you're having a bad day, just remember that the manager of a pizza store had to go inside and throw out a crappy blanket.
Speaker 1:It wasn't like a deliberate pun, but it was still a pretty solid pun.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know, besides that, I mean my life's been pretty, pretty chill this this past week, I suppose.
Speaker 1:Excellent, what's new with you, Richard School, being a student with a co-op term coming up is in fact a full-time job, because when I'm not, sending out custom cover letters and applications or stories to publications, or doing my like master class projects and things.
Speaker 1:I'm sleeping. It has been extremely busy, like tomorrow's assignment is. We literally go in with our masterwork projects and pitch them to the other students in the publishing program to like hypothetically see if they would accept or reject your novel proposal. Oh, cause they only get to take so many stories, cause they have a hypothetical budget.
Speaker 2:Makes sense.
Speaker 1:So that's going to be super exciting tomorrow. But, like my weekend was forgetting, I had schoolwork to do, waking up on Monday realizing, oh no, things are due at midnight doing that and that's pretty much been my life. I deserve it. I absolutely deserve what I get on that one.
Speaker 2:So that doesn't sound that exciting either, though.
Speaker 1:That's pretty exciting. See, my life is boring exciting. I've been volunteering for Fusion Fragment magazine as, like, a slush reader, which means I, pretty much on the bus, am just reading people's science fiction story submissions and judging them and that's lovely, right. So it's like, even though it's not. I'm not good at talking about how exciting being a student is, because when it's like, oh yeah, I was up to one in the morning coming up with a budget sheet for how many copies of a book I would order and how many I'd have to sell to make profit back. That doesn't sound fun, but it was fun. I enjoyed it very much so yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 1:I'm one of those people who are exciting in practice. It's boring in practice, but exciting in theory and you're boring in theory and exciting in practice.
Speaker 2:Out of the two of us.
Speaker 1:it sounds like I'd be more likely to have adventures, but no, I also took today me and my friend. He was working on his photography portfolio, so we, like, broke into City Hall in Mississauga to just look at the architecture it broke in well, not really. So. The world never turned back on after COVID, so like we walked into City.
Speaker 1:Hall and there's just no one there. But we found a sign that said the Grand Staircase, the Great Staircase or the Grand Staircase it had a cool name and we look and there's literally like this five-story green marble staircase with no one there and I'm like that has to lead to a parallel world or something. So a lot of my day today which was probably my most exciting day recently is my friend needing a second person with them, because if you're just taking photos by yourself, people question it, but if you have a second person standing there nodding, occasionally, it seems like it's a legit photo shoot oh yeah, okay so he just has like his briefcase of lenses as we're going on the rampage trying to find good things to photograph and we basically like, went to like the city hall, the clock tower, the art gallery, and just looked for cool lookinglooking things to take pictures of, got lost in the library.
Speaker 1:It was good stuff.
Speaker 2:Got lost in the library.
Speaker 1:Are you sure you didn't?
Speaker 2:come out in a little dimension.
Speaker 1:Well, we do have a test for this, Carl. What Pokemon cry was set to my ringtone?
Speaker 2:Well, it was Charizard.
Speaker 1:It was Charizard.
Speaker 2:Or Umbreon.
Speaker 1:There we go. Okay, fuck, we were so close. If we were in a slightly similar parallel timeline you probably would have said Espeon and yes, I used that one F-bomb for that it was me like oh, thank God, because if you're like Carl, what's my favorite Pokemon? And you're like Salamence, because it's competitive viability. I'm like, uh-oh, the stairway did lead me somewhere it wasn't supposed to.
Speaker 2:Ah, competitive viability.
Speaker 1:Like, if I'm like hey, Carl, choose one of these two Pokemon for your team Togekiss or Ah crap, I froze for a moment. Togekiss or Aerodactyl, it's obviously Togekiss just making sure it's the real you well, yeah, because I mean competitive viability, be damned like, if I'm like hey, carl, you can have this very good Swampert, very good killers most of the game. Or this Butterfree, this regular Butterfly, but not good Swampert, very good Killers most of the game, or this Butterfree, this regular Butterfly, but not Beedrill.
Speaker 2:Beedrill is terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they need to give it back its megaform for it to have a chance. But before I end up in a Pokemon tangent that will last this entire episode, we're going into an interesting choice. We're going to be discussing a person for a change and the films they have been in. This is Ryan Reddell's week.
Speaker 2:I thought for sure. You said we're going to say that we're going to be discussing detective Pikachu.
Speaker 1:Yes, keep on that Pokemon vibe.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. So let's go into detective Pikachu First off. Detective Pikachu is probably in like third place for favorite live-action video game adaption kind of things. Prime did a really good Fallout. There are better ones, but Detective Pikachu. I enjoyed that movie, but I will say they're like Ryan Reynolds, Sound like Ryan Reynolds is a Pikachu with the plot twist and at the end we reveal spoilers for Detective Pikachu. You are in fact Ryan Reynolds and, like in an interview he stated I wanted to do like a detective voice and they're like no, we're paying you for your voice. So I'll start with what were your thoughts on Detective Pikachu starring Ryan Reynolds and some other guy?
Speaker 2:Well, so sometimes when you're making in Detective Pikachu starring Ryan Reynolds and some other guy. Well, so sometimes when you're making movies and stuff object permanence you just don't notice because of the rule of cool. As a prime example, jurassic Park, the first one near the end of the movie. They're inside the main entry hall to the park and they're surrounded by velociraptors and then the T-Rex comes out of nowhere. There's no logical way for the T-Rex to get there. There's no logical way for it to get there without anyone noticing, and yet it swoops in and saves the day. Real cool. Nobody notices that. The T-Rex just could not logically actually be there. But for whatever reason, the giant Torterras oh I hate them.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Oh, I hate the Torterra Garden so much.
Speaker 2:That I don't know why. I just can't get over that instance of them just being blind to object permanence. But it's like this lab is close enough to the city that they can drive there in a couple hours. How can there possibly be giant torteras there?
Speaker 1:so the tortera garden drove me nuts because it was clearly like I want to call it trailer bait, where you like crazy things to happen in your trailer. It was the worst scene in that movie by far. It like broke its own established rules and the thing is they could have been regular-sized Torterras, just popping out of the ground.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And it's like in a movie with a Mewtwo. Why would you use the Torterras to make your world flippy nonsense? And it was just such a poor choice and added so little to the movie because the only actual consequence of that was a tiny rock hitting Pikachu in the head. Ah, yeah, because he's weak to rocks. The only actual consequence of that was a tiny rock hitting Pikachu in the head. Yeah, because he's weak to rocks.
Speaker 2:I didn't think about that. That's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just a tiny rock hits him in the head and it knocks him out because he's weak to rocks. It's great. I hated a few things in that movie the movie for being a live-action Pokemon movie, which is an impossible task. It had similar to who Framed Robert Gerabit energy, which was lovely.
Speaker 2:Because it didn't. I like your little save there with Roger Rabbit. Oh, robert Gerabit.
Speaker 1:Anywho, words are hard.
Speaker 1:The thing is one thing the movie did really well is it didn't even bother to try and explain what Pokemon were. They're like yo, you're watching a Pokemon movie. Turn on your TV in the last 50 years, you'll figure it out. But there's a few things they did that just kind of mildly irked me, like the villain's plan of putting himself into a Mewtwo's body. Great villain plan, that's just a good idea, right, right. It was the ability that they gave the Mewtwo to just take a human and just shove them into the nearest Pokemon. For some reason. That broke me Because that was so MacGuffin-y For him. He had a helmet and a cable. That part of his plan made perfect sense.
Speaker 1:And if his plan was, I put myself in a Mewtwo and then I release the Doom Gas and then the Pokemon go feral and then I rule the world because I'm a Mewtwo great evil plan. But they literally gave him the MacGuffin, put people in Pokemon power to explain the talking Pikachu and for no other reason, huh, and then they just undid it at the end too. It's like, oh, it just has this hyper-specific power to put humans into Pokemon and then undo it.
Speaker 1:Well, anyways, I want to finish my rant, I want to finish my rant, come on. Okay, okay, okay, I want to finish my rant. I want to finish my rant, Come on Okay okay, okay, they could have fixed it by simply having his dad be experimented on with the machine to be the Pikachu as a test subject and then the Pikachu escapes and then they don't have that nonsense. But the point was Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2:Ryan Reynolds playing Detective Pikachu was amazing, and we kind of skipped over 26 years of his filmography apparently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I just want to close with. I really enjoyed his portrayal of a Pikachu. I would have loved to see him do a Pikachu voice Like, not a Pikachu voice, a hard-boiled detective voice would have been funny, but I get why they didn't Missed opportunity. But he was the main character of this movie, even though they had human McHuman face.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, we don't even remember what human McHuman face's name is.
Speaker 1:I want to say something that slaps, I'm sure. So filmography, let's go back in time. Let's be honest, we did not watch his roles in anything before the year 2000 and have him be recognizable. So, pulling up his filmography, we got a movie called Ordinary Magic. There is no way you've seen that.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I think you're right, but it does actually sound familiar. I think that's a movie that my girlfriend really likes.
Speaker 1:So it was a Canadian drama film in 1993. As a young boy who was raised in India by his father, who experienced a culture shock when he must return to Canada following his father's death, Ah, yeah, so then the next one on the list. Weirdly enough, that seems to be like his most prestigious music, prestigious movie role, ordinary magic. Probably he wasn't trying to be doofy, I wouldn't know, I'd have to see the movie, then next on the list we have the alarmist which?
Speaker 1:have you seen this one Cause? This is still child Ryan Reynolds. This is still before he's evolved.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I believe he was born in 1976. Okay, so he would have been 19?. Okay 21-ish, I don't know somewhere around there, so he is still pretty young in these movies, like when Johnny Depp died in Nightmare on Elm Street.
Speaker 1:I thought you were about to tell me when Johnny Depp died at like 70. I'm like wait, johnny Depp died. I got spooked.
Speaker 2:So, for the sake of, brevity.
Speaker 1:What is the first movie on this timeline you've seen? Because I'm pretty sure I've seen or at least heard the phrase Weyenwalder enough to be familiar with it okay, so I mean Alive.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize Ron Reynolds was in that movie, but I'm assuming. So Wikipedia for some reason doesn't have a little blurb about Alive, but I'm assuming that's the movie version of the book where the sports team gets stranded in the mountains.
Speaker 1:Oh, so the movie Bolt Neck is also released as Big Monster on Campus, oh. I have seen that on YTV at some random chunk of time. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And modern adaptation of Frankenstein.
Speaker 1:But they're trying to make it like. I vaguely recall seeing this on YTV, I think.
Speaker 2:Big Monster on campus and Teen Monster Martin Lawrence plays Matthew Lawrence, not Martin Lawrence. Oh, it sounds like it would be a funny movie.
Speaker 1:And I enjoy that. It's I really enjoy. Frank sexually wrecks Carl in Returns from Home. That sentence makes me happy. I really like the fact that it's I really enjoy. Frank sexually resurrects Carl and returns him home.
Speaker 2:That sentence makes me happy I really like the fact that it's Carl with a K. Oh, I thought you would. You can help just by watching the movie, but apparently I'm sure you would.
Speaker 1:Every Carl with a K introduces himself as Carl with a K Every time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little tag so that everyone remembers your name, but then Van Wilder is another. I don't think I've ever actually seen it. It's not exactly what I would generally go for, oh these are terrible.
Speaker 1:The entire genre of horny college comedy could die, could just die in a ditch, be burned and buried Because it's like yeah, mike, like I definitely feel like I've seen this movie, but not because I put it on, you know, because look at all my college shenanigans and blatant sex offenderism.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that genre of films do not really age that well.
Speaker 1:Because like, yeah, like the entire premise is he wants to throw the most awesome college party and then they make him graduate. I feel like this was a movie where he drove around a bunch on a golf cart. Like there's pieces, there's fragments of this movie in my brain and I think it made me a worse person. Like I think anything this movie taught me hurt me in college he learned a degree in leisure studies.
Speaker 1:That's such a trope filled movie and I don't know how many tropes it's said or not, but thankfully that genre seems dead. Harold and Kumar go to White Castle.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's a classic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. I mean that's a classic, it is.
Speaker 2:I mean it's one of those jokes too where it's like you know, white Castle gave them no money. I actually I considered looking up online to see Because celebrities it's moderately easy to figure out how to actually contact them, whether or not they would respond to you, but it is moderately easy. I'm casually famous, you never know. I was considering seeing if I could find Neil Patrick Harris's contact information and ask him if he would want to go on a Canadian version of let's Go to White Castle, kind of thing.
Speaker 1:No no.
Speaker 2:You just ask him do you want to be my partner for the? Amazing Race For the Amazing Race I will say, though it's hard to call this a Ryan Reynolds movie. Well, yeah, because he's kind of just just. He only really is in the one scene. He is really. He is quite funny in the scene that he's in because he's a male nurse, which, particularly in the early 2000s, uh, was comical just for the gender reversal which is, yeah, parts of this movie aged well, I wouldn't just burn it alive like Van Wilder.
Speaker 1:But Now that I'm thinking about that movie I'm having random seeds come back to me. I'm like that scene made me want to vomit. I'm not going to talk about that on air, that was a bad movie. But yeah, go to White Castle. I'm hesitant to say it's a Ryan Reynolds movie. Like, for example, saying Ryan Reynolds was a star in Blade Trinity is like okay, that's a stretch.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, wait, wait, wait. Who is Hannibal King, the character he played?
Speaker 1:That kind of proves it already.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, firstly, the first time I ever watched Blade, you're right, Blade Trinity, I don't remember, because I watched Blade, kind of the opening scene with the blood sprinklers, and my parents were watching it, and then they're like, oh yeah, you probably shouldn't watch this, so they kicked me out of the room and I still got nightmares from it.
Speaker 1:For the record, they were right.
Speaker 2:Tomb of Dracula, Hannibal King. As a fictional bibliography, he's a vampire. Okay, Apparently it's just part Okay.
Speaker 1:Apparently he's just part of the Night Stalker's vampire crew. I had to remember which Blade movie was. So the thing about a lot of movies Ryan Reynolds finds himself in, especially Marvel movies and action movies, is trying to remember the character's name. If they don't have a superhero name is nearly impossible.
Speaker 2:Fair enough, let's see so. Next on the list, the Amityville Horror. I don't remember Ryan Reynolds' role, but I have gone through several horror kicks in my time as a movie connoisseur. Amityville Horror is definitely a movie I have seen.
Speaker 1:Do you remember if he lived through the movie? Let's start there. Did Ryan Reynolds live through this movie?
Speaker 2:I didn't realize Ryan Reynolds was in the movie. He's obviously not a main character.
Speaker 1:He is one of these the Lutz's, lutz's, lutz's.
Speaker 2:Maybe he is the main character. I don't know George Lutz Lutz Luce. I don't know George Lutz Lutz Luce, maybe, hmm.
Speaker 1:So I'm pretty sure he got murdered, given the real life mass murderer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm pretty sure he got murdered too. Waiting is another. That's a classic comedy. I don't know if I've ever actually seen it, because I'm blanking on this one. That's a classic comedy. Uh, I don't know if I've ever actually seen it. Um cause.
Speaker 1:I'm blanking on this one.
Speaker 2:Uh, it's about a group of uh waiters who, uh, they're mistreated and then, um, get their revenge on the the uh customers. Basically gross things. Oh, that would put me off. It's funny Cause, like metaphorically the customers.
Speaker 1:basically they're doing gross things. Oh, that would put me off. It's funny because metaphorically I'm right there with serving staff.
Speaker 2:But you can't mess with food around me Alright.
Speaker 1:so let's jump to something I can go a bit more in-depth with, because my Ryan Reynolds knowledge is not holding up great at the moment. So I'm going to jump to X-Men Origins Wolverine.
Speaker 2:Oh, you didn't want to do Adventureland.
Speaker 1:Well, tell me about Adventureland. I'm going to put a new rule. To talk about a movie, you have to be able to tell me what the movie was about.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, I can't tell you what Adventureland was about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I thought. Punk, yeah, I, yeah, I mean you think your ryan reynolds knowledge is is minimal, like I don't know why. It's worth noting though, like he feels like he's a comedy character, but it's always fun to see it be like. Oh wait, he can actually act when he feels like it. But so x-men's origins wolverine is the funniest career trajectory ever because he played deadpool in the infamously bad worst portrayal of Deadpool and that is just deeply hilarious because, like X-Men Origins, wolverine was just a bad movie.
Speaker 1:Like it's what happens when you have someone milk an IP who can't be bothered to read the source material. Like it's also like I believe it was Ryan George who talked about how wait, can we watch the movie where it's Sabretooth and Wolverine fighting on all the wars throughout human history? Like no, it's like they literally sewed his mouth shut and just the joke. Where it's like I'm a comedian, cool, I've sewed his mouth shut. And just the joke where it's like I'm a comedian, cool, I've sewed your mouth shut, enjoy. Like that has to be. Like the best redemption arc. Like sure, darth Vader has a redemption arc, but Ryan Reynolds as Wade Wilson is a redemption arc uh, interestingly enough, 2009 looks to be like his most prolific year until 2021.
Speaker 2:To be his most prolific year until 2021.
Speaker 1:To be fair, the Croods was mildly amusing.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I mean, the Croods is mildly amusing, so Green.
Speaker 1:Lantern. So this is so funny to be like, okay, he did Deadpool and got done dirty Then he did Green Lantern and he got done dirty again.
Speaker 1:But that's such a weird success story to be like okay, we have him in two superhero flops and green lantern was just so. Some things, even with current technology, shouldn't really be attempted and expect them to be good when you have characters who fight with CGI and go on space adventures and I've noticed this with more recent Marvel movies like Ant-Man 3 was really bad for that If your entire movie is filmed in front of a green screen. It's gonna be bad.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, unless you're James Cameron fooling Avatar.
Speaker 1:No, Avatar was not entirely from a green screen. He threw people under the water.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's true. He invented new technology.
Speaker 1:To add authenticity to his green screen. Green Lantern did not do that, and just also no one read a Green Lantern comic book when they did Green Lantern. It's just like DC. What are you doing, man? And I'm just like oh, ryan Reynolds, you got two roles of a lifetime. That didn't work.
Speaker 2:And then that propelled them to do one of the most successful roles in comic book history, I think.
Speaker 1:I think so. So like the thing about his later reprisal of Deadpool being actual Deadpool, my knowledge of the character Deadpool is funny, so most of my Marvel knowledge came from the 90s cartoons and video games so I wasn't a comic book reader so I didn't know about the wise cracking Merk with a mouth has two text boxes, a white one and a yellow one.
Speaker 1:Goofy fourth wall breaking Deadpool. That wasn't a character I knew about before the Deadpool movie came out not really. I knew like the Deadpool from the X-Men 90s show of like no, they're actually just like a mercenary. That was on wolverine squad. That was kind of cool. So it's funny to see the character deadpool do a straight up comedy right but it was also like a dark comedy like that's.
Speaker 1:what made that movie really good to me is wacky hijinks paired with what's just legitimate trauma Because you had to do a surprising amount of range in that movie, because if Deadpool was just doofy and wasn't like oh, I'm dying of cancer and my girlfriend's dying and they're torturing me in a chamber and I should be nihilistic but I'm not, so I'm going to try and kill myself as a bit, you kind of have to have range for that to land at all.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Also, it's worth noting that he played the titular Turbo in the animated movie Turbo about his snail going fast, and I can safely say I've never seen Turbo. I've never had any desire to see Turbo. Sorry, dreamworks, no, snail Goes Fast has never been on the list of things I want to see. Like I understand why they did it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:But he was a Skardistel who dreamed of becoming a racer, the next Indianapolis 500 champion and obtain super speed during a car race. Like that's exactly the kind of thing you would throw in the background at a daycare.
Speaker 2:But what?
Speaker 1:are your thoughts on Deadpool?
Speaker 2:Deadpool as a character. Deadpool the movie.
Speaker 1:Let's go with the Ryan Reynolds verse Deadpool as portrayed by Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 2:So Deadpool, as portrayed by Ryan Reynolds, feels like a match made in heaven. I don't know what it is about Ryan Reynolds, but he has a certain charisma and comedic timing.
Speaker 1:I think he has. I was thinking about this today. I'm calling it nihilistic charisma. It's something a lot of the other Marvel actors lack. He's funny-ist in depressing scenes.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Like that's hard to do because you have to strike that balance. But I don't know, I'm still brain-topping it. But I talked over you. Please continue sir.
Speaker 2:Uh, well, yeah. So I just I feel like, uh, ryan Reynolds is like I. I I'm hesitant to say he was made for the role Cause, cause obviously he wasn't.
Speaker 1:But since it would. If he was, it would have worked the first time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, If he was, it would have worked the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, but the writers and the directors and the actors definitely for the first Deadpool movie converged to create a truly iconic character. Well, bring a truly iconic character to life, I suppose.
Speaker 1:I'm going to shift that a bit. I don't think Deadpool, so Deadpool was popular with a very small subject of the population, not Marvel fans, specifically Deadpool fans like Deadpool. Right Before Deadpool the movie came out, did you have any Deadpool fans that you knew, people who, liked Deadpool was their favorite character before the movie came out.
Speaker 2:No, no, I would say, I did not.
Speaker 1:I had one. So out of the like 4,000 plus people I know in my like infosphere, one was a Deadpool fan before Deadpool came out and of the version of Deadpool that's like the fourth wall-breaking meta-Deadpool, Right, so it is safe to say that he made Deadpool popular. A lot of comic book fans are grabbing their pitchforks, but they're also like six dudes, so I'm probably fine. What's interesting?
Speaker 2:though, is.
Speaker 1:I'm just thinking like so Deadpool, they've done interviews and things where they're like people didn't believe in this movie. They literally cut a gun scene because they ran out of budget and like it wasn't something they were betting on being successful.
Speaker 1:But I still find it's insane that they actually cast him for it. After X-Men Origin. It's like oh, we had him play this character in the worst movie ever. Let's give him another chance. It's logic. I've never. We had him play this character in the worst movie ever. Let's give him another chance. Is logic. I've never seen in the superhero genre Like could you imagine if they're like hmm, jared Leto really needs another shot at the Joker to redeem himself. No, you don't go. Hey, batflick needed a better Batflick movie to really nail it. That's not what happens. You don't take a character who portrayed someone and did meh and give them another chance. I don't think I've ever seen another instance of that happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and even though the character had his mouth sewn shut and had no joy in them. And he really only got to be Ryan Reynolds for one scene as Deadpool. Before he had giant scythe arms that would make his arms unable to bend, because you have a plate of adamantium that's longer than your arm anyway. Also, they gave him laser vision for some reason, ignoring all the things that make me mad about that version of Deadpool.
Speaker 2:I am blown away.
Speaker 1:He got a second shot at it. I'm very happy and it made the meta jokes really good, like in Deadpool 2, him shooting himself in the back of the head.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 1:But like I am shocked they didn't, would you have done it? Would you have let him try again to be Deadpool If it was your money?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean so Between X-Men Origins and Deadpool. Well, I mean so between x-men origins and deadpool. Uh, a, there's seven years and b, um, just switch up. The switch up the trajectory a little bit perfect. Um, he's, he's shown an incredible range, uh, particularly, uh, in 2014, the voices.
Speaker 1:Voices. Okay, sweet, sick pivot.
Speaker 2:Good job. That is a well. So the description is oh, my internet on my computer is being wonky, but it's a satire and it's basically about a guy and he talks to his pets and his pets basically convince him to kill people.
Speaker 1:That honestly sounds so fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's such a good movie and it's just such an incredible pivot from a lot of the things that he has done before, because I mean it is a little bit funny, but it's, it's not very dramatic.
Speaker 1:Also. Here's some things that also happened in that space. Not really his fault, but it's worth noting. Green Lantern happened in that time period and so did RIPD. Have you seen RIPD?
Speaker 2:Have you seen?
Speaker 1:RIPD.
Speaker 2:I don't think I have.
Speaker 1:It is a buddy cop movie where one of the premise is Ryan Reynolds becomes a zombie and gets recruited into the buddy cop zombie division. Okay, yes, that is exactly what you think this movie is. Yeah, alright, and they're like trying to defeat the evil cult so he can be unzombied by assembling the MacGuffin staff. So think National Treasure, but zombies and buddy cup. So to be like he did really good in this, it's like true, but he was also Turbo the snail and was an RIPD and was an uncredited cameo in A Million Ways to Die in the West.
Speaker 1:A delightful movie, but he was not the star of that one.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying that he has a pretty extensive filmography and has shown a crazy range throughout his career. So even though Deadpool well, x-men, wolverine, that version of Deadpool didn't really resonate, I can see why they would give him another chance, given his charisma and varied acting career.
Speaker 1:And, interestingly enough, like he, I'm trying to remember this. It's like my brain just completely blank, but the thing is he wanted the role, Like that's important Right. Because, there's a difference like between hey, you failed at this role, do it again, and I want to do this. And then Deadpool 2 wasn't as good as Deadpool 1 no.
Speaker 2:I enjoyed it it was definitely very enjoyable, but there's a problem with a lot of sequels and I don't really exactly know how to address it per se in my own storytelling. But a lot of sequels, they'll just do more of the same. So it's like they recycled the tiny hand joke. They recycled the TJ Miller jokes.
Speaker 1:I think my problem actually comes more to a character arc problem. So his character arc in the first movie was starts as a mercenary decides to go through all this crap to live. So the first movie was about Deadpool learning to live again.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That was like the actual point of all of it is. He was happy, he got super depressed and then was cursed with immortality and basically he's like I'm going to try and be a hero to find the will to live again.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Deadpool 2 is he's lost the will to live. He gets blown up and he's trying to find the will to live again.
Speaker 1:What really hurts for sequels is the thing is characters can relapse and characters can grow in different ways, but when you give them the same character arc, that's when it becomes problematic. So, like Marvel's notorious for that, If we take Iron man, for example, it's does something bad with Stark tech, gets owned, builds tech, solution to fixes. It is humbled repeat loop. But when we go to Captain America, who actually had a better arc, his first arc is stand up, be a hero classic hero's journey. Be a Hero Classic Hero's Journey. Second arc is in. His second movie is my Current Hero's Journey Does Not Apply to 2020 Society. And his third movie was I Believe People Should Be. It's like I believe government oversight is bad and Iron man believes government oversight is good. So his arc was literally him going from a soldier to realizing that, no matter what government's running it, government shouldn't be controlling people, which is an interesting take to go from literal soldier propaganda weapon to independent mercenary.
Speaker 1:So Cap had a good arc over his three movies. Stark did not.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Deadpool did not have a good arc over his two movies because it was the same arc.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Because his thing he was supposed to learn was to not, instead of being cursed with immortality, to enjoy his immortality. That was his actual lesson.
Speaker 2:Right. I mean that kind of ties into my whole thing about sequels, where it's like they really really Obviously the things that worked are part of what made the movie successful in the first place. But when you just do the exact same but more To me Deadpool felt very close to being just the exact same movie but a little bit more.
Speaker 1:So I think the problem with Deadpool and why I'm really excited for the next Deadpool movie when it comes out slash Logan movie is Deadpool would have worked better in Deadpool 2 if he wasn't the main character. So when you have a big interconnected Marvel goodness Cable had a much more interesting character arc than Deadpool in that movie Right, because Cable's arc was I need to go back and kill this child to make it a better future. And the ethical argument was the classic would you kill baby Hitler?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:That was much more compelling. So if Deadpool was a side character that was mostly just there to follow Cable's journey, it probably would have been a stronger movie, because Deadpool didn't really have anything to learn. So why I'm really excited for Logan and Deadpool is they're both protagonists. So because they're dual antagonists, they're both going to learn something and I think what they're going to learn is Deadpool's going to learn that sometimes you have to be serious and Logan's going to learn sometimes you have to be chill, and I know that sounds like a super cliche lesson to learn, but there's absolute perfect characters for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the Goku-Vegeta lesson could not apply more to Wolverine Murderer's main character of X-Men and Deadpool, deadpool being the Goku and Wolverine being the Vegeta chef's kiss. So to move to another Ryan Reynolds movie, where Ryan Reynolds played Ryan Reynolds Free Guy, have you seen Free Guy?
Speaker 2:Oh, that movie was great.
Speaker 1:I love that movie, but I love that it's a guilty pleasure movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, it's definitely not flawless because, like you have said, off stream it kind of feels like they break their own logic. They don't really know.
Speaker 1:They don't know how a video game works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't really know how video games actually work.
Speaker 1:So I give this one about reincarnated in other worlds and video game animes all the time. I think I gave this rant last week, so I'm just going to give the cliff notes. They say in the show you can't kiss a character in this video game. We play it with a mouse and keyboard. Then he kiss a character in this video game. We play it with a mouse and keyboard. Then he kisses a character okay, he's an ai, maybe he can do that. Oh, she kisses him back. You said you said there is no kiss button. You could just say there is a kiss emote and it's like it was definitely one of those movies that was more interested in borrowing the world of a video game than actually flushing out an actual video game ready player one was was bad for that too where it's like, okay, at least have your writing team go play WoW for a bit first.
Speaker 1:So their brain's in the right headspace. Also hitting a server with a crowbar to blow up chunks of the world is not how anything works, but but, but. But it was a super entertaining movie. Guy had a great character arc, ryan Reynolds killed it, and that Captain America shield reveal was the dumbest product placement I've ever seen and I loved it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it just had some really good commentary on the games industry. I really enjoyed. Like no one cares about sequels anymore, it's all about IP. And then they made Shirt Guy completely oh, shirt Dude completely. Misunderstanding what made Blue Shirt Guy cool in the first place, gave him a shirt tattoo instead of having him wear a shirt.
Speaker 2:Okay. But so moving on to a movie which is definitely not a ryan reynolds movie, but, uh, bullet train is. It's hilarious. I'm honestly. I've said on this podcast before I loved bullet train. Bullet train was a great movie. You should go and see it. I have a copy of the book. I haven't read it yet, but I am planning on reading the book. But TLDR, brad Pitt's character, ladybug, bullet or Train. He is on the train as a substitute for Carver and all of the bad stuff that happens to him is intended for Carver, because Carver caused a car accident that that killed the main villain's wife. And so then you get to the end of the movie and he's like no, I'm not Carver, that guy's an asshole. And then, and then, just the reveal that that it's been Ryan Reynolds the whole time is is Carver, that guy's an asshole. And then just the reveal that it's been Ryan Reynolds the whole time is Carver. I don't know why. It was just like that was mwah.
Speaker 1:I think it was unintentionally funny. So there's two like Ryan Reynolds Netflix movies that I've seen, both of them that I don't know if you have or not. So first is Red. Notice, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2:What I heard is that it's a generic flick where most of the actors kind of called it in, but they're also charismatic that it was still fun to watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so as a Netflix movie which I watched last time my mother was visiting, I think while cooking dinner in the background. It did what it needed to do. It's kind of funny because it during its debut weekend. It was like their most watched film they'd ever done, simply because they put Dwayne the Rock Johnson in the jungle of Ryan Reynolds and they're right, that's all.
Speaker 1:Oh, and Gal Gadot, that yeah. But like the double triple cross they put in that movie didn't really make sense. The movie's plot doesn't hold up to a ton of scrutiny, but Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Ryan Reynolds being buddy really make sense. The movie's plot doesn't hold up to a ton of scrutiny, but Dwayne the Rock Johnson and Runny New Reynolds being buddy thieves trying to scam each other is a good time. It's one of those movies I'd say is worth watching once. But if it's your favorite movie, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Go watch some other movies that are just better.
Speaker 1:And the second one that was interesting, that I saw, one of his Netflix ones was the Adam Project, which was like so you know the classic. Well now, classic grizzled old veteran bonds with child during situation. His twist on it is it was himself because he time traveled. So grizzled old mentor was a grizzled old mentor to himself right with his time travel ship and it was pretty interesting hmm, and he like had like plasma swords and plasma.
Speaker 1:You know, one of those sci-fi things where like, okay, this is on the sci-fi channel and it's not taking itself too seriously, but it is amusing, right. Yeah, it was a good movie. Would I watch it twice? Probably not, but did I? Enjoy it, yes did it win the mtv movie and tv awards somehow?
Speaker 2:huh which is it got nominated.
Speaker 1:Apparently it won a comedy movie People's Choice Award, where I really think Ryan Reynolds won a comedy movie People's Choice Award and it just happened to be that movie. Yeah, and with that we've caught back up to Ghosted If and Deadpool and Wolverines.
Speaker 2:Well, see, I mentioned off stream I want to complain about If because I just Something that you've said to me about some other short story ideas and other projects are that there's no antagonist, and if it's about a young girl, I want to pause for a moment.
Speaker 1:I've noticed a trend about you as a human. I think your antagonist is Steve Carell. Carl's personal antagonist is Hollywood Steve Carell. That's personal antagonist is Hollywood Steve Carell. That is now canon. Please continue. If, steve Carell, if you're watching this? Please comment in the video below.
Speaker 2:Steve Carell's character was not a problem.
Speaker 1:No, no, he just happens to be your nemesis. He's in Things you Hate because he makes them to hate you.
Speaker 2:So the movie is about this little girl or this young girl I guess she's like 12 or 13 or something and she goes to New York and stays with her grandmother because her dad is sick, needs a heart surgery or something, and the last time she was in New York staying with her grandmother her mother was in the hospital and died.
Speaker 1:Okay, so the villain is death, I mean, I guess.
Speaker 2:So her dad is goofy, lo, lovable, always playing pranks, um and uh, trying to make light of the situation. He's like, yeah, you know, just like, go have fun, make a story to tell, like you know, um. And then she inexplicably develops the ability to see imaginary friends and comes across a hotel or a retirement home for imaginary friends, wait, wait wait, wait.
Speaker 1:So first off, there is a very popular cartoon called Foster Home for imaginary friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, Friends. Yeah yeah. I mean that seems like it would actually have been a good movie because from what I've seen of that show, it was enjoyable.
Speaker 1:Oh, the imaginary friend was such a sociopath. There's a scene where he got a character deported with a hot pepper.
Speaker 2:But she finds this retirement home for imaginary friends and decides that she's going to try and rehome these friends with with Ryan Reynolds. Help, yes, and there are no obstacles, like she she, she.
Speaker 1:Conflict is so important for storytelling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because she just like like finds Ryan Reynolds? And he's like, yeah, I don't really like you that much. And then she's like, well, how about I help you? And then he's like, oh fine, I guess. And then they go there and she's like, yeah, actually, apparently I can control this whole retirement home with my mind and redecorate. Then we can just go and bring all these imaginary friends to try and find kids for them. Then we just magically make people able to see their imaginary friends again when they're adults.
Speaker 1:Wait, Steve Carell's character was literally named Blue. Yes, he was purple, though Foster's home for imaginary friends should be doing some legal action.
Speaker 2:He's purple, he just Friends should be doing some legal action. He's purple. He just happened to be named blue.
Speaker 1:That makes it more law-suitable. If you just name your character after the main character of this other thing you're ripping off, and it's not even the right color, ugh, ugh, like I'm literally checking to see if this was supposed to be a direct sequel or something to justify its existence there was a lack of conflict, because everything just kind of succeeds.
Speaker 2:Basically there's no stakes. It feels like it has a point and a message, but that point and message doesn't have any weight, because whether or not her dad lives or dies has nothing to do with the rest of the movie.
Speaker 1:So to follow that up a bit, I went to the bottom of this Wikipedia page for some of the critic quotes, which I don't normally do and I wouldn't normally read on stream, but these are so good. Okay, here's one of them. If makes you wish you were watching some other movie.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:There's a fine line between whimsical dream logic of Ronald Dahl and irritating, incoherent nonsense. Mm-hmm, if makes no sense narratively, mm-hmm. Agreed. Starring Blue Lost Theirs Home for Imaginary Fans, which featured, which itself featured, an orphanage that takes their imaginary friends after the kids outgrow them and they leave after other children adopt them.
Speaker 2:Starring Blue uh, yeah, well, and then the uh, completely obvious twist that Ryan Reynolds is actually the main girl's imaginary friend that she had forgotten about when her mom died. Uh, it was just like duh, like, yeah, obviously I love the joke of like that twist isn't as twisty as you think it is.
Speaker 1:I also really enjoyed the three shadowing Ryan, george, line Ooh, setting up some three shadowing, you mean foreshadowing? No, it wasn't that good.
Speaker 2:Pretty much. In any event, those those critic quote. So you just mean pretty much sum up my thought on the movie. It was like I was. I don't know what I was expecting, but I was expecting more from Ryan Reynolds, I guess yeah, because he was a character and a producer on it.
Speaker 1:But I thought yeah and like deadpool and wolverine, he's post-production, also producer, also writer, also wade wilson, so it's an interesting paradox. So you're looking at his filmography and it breaks into three genres really like, like he has range, but he mostly does these three things.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Doofy dude in a horror movie, mm-hmm. Adult comedy with like gross-out humor and animated kids flick.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Out of those three categories, he's probably the best at gross-out adult humor as much as I hate Van Wilder, that is his closest role to Deadpool, Right In fact, if the guy from Van Wilder proceeds to then join the military and be turned into Deadpool, I think the continuity still tracks Right okay.
Speaker 1:Like I think that still tracks, but like it's weird because when you cast him in something like a kids movie it limits his range a bit. But I didn't have that problem with Detective Pikachu, right, the jokes in Detective Pikachu still landed. Like I really enjoyed the. I'm a mouse of a coffee addiction who can't use my special powers and we just burned this mime alive right Right.
Speaker 1:I mean the burning, the Mr Mime Alive joke was top tier. But I'm curious your thoughts, like for this If movie do you think like the age range restricted him or it was just no matter what they did, it was gonna be bad, like could a better comedy have saved it, I guess, is my question.
Speaker 2:Uh, well, I guess, is my question. Well, I mean so. The premise obviously resonates with some people because it's a show that's basically the same premise. I mean it had to differentiate itself from Foster Home for Imaginary Friends.
Speaker 1:It really didn't.
Speaker 2:But yeah, maybe if it didn't, maybe if it leaned more into that, then I would have been like it could have been better if it had been more about the foster home and the friends rather than about trying to get adults to see their imaginary friends again, because the emotional resonance just wasn't there.
Speaker 1:And part of things too, like I get that no ideas are that original and I'm normally not against things that are clearly inspired by things Like Kagebush Kagebare, sweet samurai action manga going on Kagura Bashi, thank you. I've made quips before where I'm like, okay, he has a other than the fact that he has a Saitama face. I'm basically reading a modern contemporary bleach, for the most part Like the fact that he's like fish Pat. I'm like, yeah, that's just a bond guy, he bond guide. We watched him do it as he fights a teleport guy in the thing, but it's like it's still cool.
Speaker 1:I don't mind if something is inspired by something else, if they do something cool with it oh yeah, but like for a movie like this why is it just license the cartoon and deliberately make that the movie, when you get that close, like if they tell me they've never heard of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and you tell me no one on the production of this film Googled the phrase imaginary friends?
Speaker 2:Well, they probably just Googled the phrase if.
Speaker 1:So if you Google imaginary friends, you get if and then you get Foster's Home. Those are the first two boxes. If I Google, I F capitalized like they spelled it, I get if and unfortunately I do not get. I was really hoping it would also give me Foster's Home for imaginary friends, because that would have been hilarious. Not quite, but it's also not really a very good Google thing If movie. But my rant aside, the lack of originality isn't what broke me, it's that they did something bad and something so similar they could have just did the original thing. Yeah, because I find it very hard to believe that no one on the production team was aware of this cartoon network show at any point in their lives or became aware of it while working on this.
Speaker 1:These are not small staff yeah, uh.
Speaker 2:So I mean, I am still excited for Deadpool and Wolverine, despite my reservations about Deadpool 2.
Speaker 1:Well, if we were doing a Hugh Jackman list, had we watched every Hugh Jackman movie, we'd be like this man can act.
Speaker 2:Hugh Jackman has crazy range, that's true.
Speaker 1:So, like this combination is perfect, like I cannot think of a better duo for anything. Like this is just going to be, I hope, the best buddy cop movie of all time. Like the logo is a broken heart necklace with Deadpool and Wolverine on it.
Speaker 2:Like and even though.
Speaker 1:Wolverine was a character in some truly terrible X-Men movies. He always did good Right Like. I can't think of a bad like. I've seen Hugh Jackman in bad movies, but I can't think of a bad Hugh Jackman movie. Deadpool has very similar energy. Like Ryan Reynolds, I can't recall him being bad in a movie Like even this movie. I don't think he did bad, even though he had a production role, so he's a little more on the hook than normal as an actor.
Speaker 2:I think he did fine with the script, but I think the script was really weak and that's it just. Ended up, as all the critics saying, kind of being a mess and with no emotional resonance.
Speaker 1:Which is tragic but also not particularly surprising. But to wrap up this in a fun bow, his career has been a sine wave just because of the things he's been in. Career has been a sign wave just because of the things he's been in. But that doesn't mean I'm not super excited for wolverine and deadpool, because, oh man, is that just such a good buddy cop core like?
Speaker 1:yeah I really do hope it's both of their last x-men. Anything they do, though, I want them to wrap up that with this and not have it be the start of another cinematic universe. I am over cinematic universes at the moment. I want a nice standalone movie. That would make me very happy.
Speaker 2:What are your closing thoughts. Well, my closing thoughts are that the premise of this movie might disappoint you.
Speaker 1:Then what's the premise of the movie?
Speaker 2:Six years after the events of Deadpool 2, wade Wilson lives a quiet life, having left his time as a mercenary Deadpool behind him. Until the Time Variance Authority, a bureaucratic organization that exists out of time and space and monitors the timeline, pulls him into a new mission. With his home universe facing an existential threat, wilson reluctantly joins an even more reluctant Wolverine on a mission that will change the history of the MCU.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope they MCU themselves out of it. Like I hope it's full of all of the cameos, of all of the shit they've done, ridiculous interactions, like I want them literally to just rob Thor while he's overweight and then them just both be like we done, we done, done, and then they just peace out because Hugh Jackman I don't think he has that much Marvel left in him yeah, no, actually, as a random other side note, although the wheelchair is probably appropriate, sir Patrick Stewart is 84.
Speaker 1:So he's going to need some dragon blood going on here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if he's going to be a part of the MCU going forward, I wonder how long the MCU will last with him in it.
Speaker 1:Although we've got the technology to just bring their voice back and body back from the dead with CGI.
Speaker 2:That's true, and they don't even need his legs.
Speaker 1:Here's our random question. I don't know if I used this one, but I don't think I have. What's a hobby you've always wanted to try, but never had the chance to.
Speaker 2:A hobby. I've always wanted to try but never had the chance to.
Speaker 1:My answer is going to be kind of mixed a bit. I have two answers for this. One's not really a good answer for the question and the other one is so I've always wanted to try game design in a more serious capacity because I've doodled with it but I've never made a game from start to finish. So as a hobby I'd like to try game design with the commitment to do it. But that feels like I'm cheating the question.
Speaker 2:Now for a hobby I'd just love to have.
Speaker 1:I'd love to actually take fencing classes and just stab people with a sword. I've never had the surplus money, time energy friend group to be like let's go fencing. But yeah, no, if me and you had weekly fencing, that'd be sweet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my hobby would be kind of similar, just martial arts. In general, I feel like the ship has sailed. I mean, it's never really too late to get into shape, but I'm never going to be competitive at martial arts at this point in my life, um, but uh, I think it depends on the martial art fencing feels like an old person.
Speaker 1:Martial art, like in your wage cash category and age category, like mma, you're right, you'd be dead.
Speaker 2:I wanted to give an inspirational speech, but but no, yeah, no, stage combat would also be really fun. Ooh, that would be a good one Historical European martial arts, shortened to HEMA. I don't know much about it, but I think that would be a fun martial art to study, Because when you say martial arts you do not think of Europe.
Speaker 1:It's funny because it's true.
Speaker 2:But European martial arts is actually a real thing just because martial arts is actually a pretty broad category of combat sports that is very fair.
Speaker 1:So I'm kind of on board with this. Like I would want to do a martial art, but one of. I like martial arts. The more rules and less like try to kill each other, it is typically the more I like it. Like boxing I enjoy, partly because I only have to control two parts of my body my fists, like fencing would be a good one. But if you're like, yeah, jump spinny kicks, I'm not doing a jump spinny kick, it's just not happening.
Speaker 1:And we do have one other random question this week If you had to create a new holiday, what would it be called and how would it be celebrated?
Speaker 2:Um well, what would it be called and how would it be celebrated? Um well, hmm.
Speaker 1:So I think I would do. I need a more clever name, but I'd be like disconnect-a-thon, and it would be like it would be a week long event worldwide where you don't get internet access. Oh, Everyone on Earth, just no internet for a week. I think humanity would greatly benefit and if your job's online. I guess you're closed that week.
Speaker 2:I was going to go with something like I don't want to be like PETA, but like an animal cruelty or animal like adoption awareness.
Speaker 1:you know, I kind of like puppy fest, where it's just we go in, like it's a thing where we shelter, like declare rescue animals to be adopted everywhere, like it's just a mass adopt a rescue animal week or day. Yeah, yeah, puppy fest Kittens are allowed.
Speaker 2:And like, actually make it a holiday so that people can take the time to actually go to the places and see the animals.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, puppy and kitten day, I think we'll agree. I think we're both on board to just have puppy-kitten day be a thing, both on board to just have puppy kitten day be a thing. Where it's a stat holiday, you get time and a half for paid because everyone's supposed to be petting puppies and kittens, getting them adopted. It's just a great day. And if you're a vet that day, you just get double pay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a stat holiday, so they just get extra pay for that day. Yeah, no, I'm on board. We can do this. Let's make this a thing.
Speaker 2:Make it a thing.
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