Episode 64: Karl and Krinkle cookies

Why are we talking about X-mas food, nobody knows!

Transcript

Speaker 1  0:00  
This rather than like saying the actual facts any that's one thing was me is he specifically angry about

Speaker 1  0:14  
where the sheets is a character sheets involved you rolling two dice to figure out the width and length of your attack to play like a battleship game to do damage to each other's parts.

Speaker 2  0:25  
And while that's much more interesting than the self publishing class section, where my your audio is cutting in and out on me, so I'm not always getting some of that stuff, but I think it likes robots more than likely ranting about audio quality. That sounds good now,

Speaker 1  0:43  
so apparently, it just censored my overt negativity. Let me try again asked me what's in the fridge. Oh, what's

Unknown Speaker  0:50  
new with you, Richard? Oh, okay.

Speaker 1  0:52  
So, for RPG club, we are trying a new indie Robot Game we got sent. I played for the king with you a bit, which was pretty good. We're preparing to do a gift exchange over Christmas. I'm looking forward to that. I have a few weeks left left in the term and as Christmas break, and I got some Christmas break shifts, which is lovely. Because I enjoy having some income over Christmas.

Unknown Speaker  1:16  
random question time, actually.

Unknown Speaker  1:18  
Ooh, now we're getting

Speaker 2  1:20  
well, no, it's definitely a random question. But do you like Christmas cake?

Speaker 1  1:25  
So there's a series of different kinds of Christmas cake I've had in my life. Things I've been blessed with with various kitchen managers is various qualities of Christmas baked goods over my years. So I had one kitchen manager redacted who came in with this like Jamaican rum raisin Christmas cake. Thing was delicious, and mildly flammable levels of rubbing it like that rumbles and cooked off that would just like know what you do for the glazes you whisk powdered sugar into rum until it's a glaze and glaze it with the rum. Thing was amazing kid. Conversely, at one point or another, Cassie had a Christmas cake. It was amazing. So when you think of like the sitcom, this fruitcake so Dentsu can bludgeoned someone to death trope food Yeah, we've been conditioned by media to hate on the Christmas cake probably due to some sort of racism but that doesn't mean you can't make a delicious cake around Christmas. I just don't think Christmas cake is actually a thick I think it's one of those sitcom situations where they've gaslight us into thinking there's a singular dish called Christmas cake. That's never really been a thing.

Speaker 2  2:36  
Well I'll just like my girlfriend is is getting into the spirit with some Christmas baking we want like cookies and chocolates and so

Speaker 1  2:44  
on all chance we talk about Christmas break goods and snacks for the next hour. Like the present pretty substantial chances increasing by the second because like I love so I'm gonna give a monologue about Christmas to her like one listener like our stream evilly restarted like we lost like coherent video, so a bit of the podcast might have actually got like corrupted. So Carl's news as he hit someone off his truck.

Speaker 2  3:12  
Well, I don't own a truck. I own a Nissan Rogue. So if you're trying to find me, just look for the only Nissan Rogue

Speaker 1  3:23  
attack bonus when you hit them right because you attack them from behind

Speaker 2  3:30  
the dent in their vehicle substantially larger than the small crack in my bumper but

Speaker 1  3:33  
sneak attack with a finesse weapon to the point to the

Speaker 2  3:38  
point where I wonder if the damage is actually from my vehicle or if it's like was pre existing

Speaker 1  3:45  
Yes, their vehicle got in a previous accident realised they could pin it on you the wealthiest man in Saskatoon saw you driving down on your 2008 Nissan road and that immediately cut you off and slammed on the brakes and then ignited the subtle for solar flares cover.

Speaker 2  4:01  
Hey, don't judge Nellie the Nissan. Oh 2000 She's a 2018 Nissan road

Speaker 1  4:11  
you know I remember the eight like that's pretty good for me for how little I care about cars. I take buses everywhere. So I apologise for insulting Nestle's owner but yeah, the backup to this episode what they really want to hear us talk about not anime not video games, not sci fi and horror. Nah, we're here to talk butter charts. We're here to talk shortbread. We're here to talk beverages. So Christmas cake give us the download those baked goods we're now a colour airy info food blog stirs.

Speaker 2  4:49  
Okay, so my girlfriend has a bunch of chocolate moulds.

Speaker 1  4:56  
Alright, we're already off to a great start. Like this is gonna be a good story.

Unknown Speaker  5:01  
There's not much to the story

Unknown Speaker  5:04  
or the story. Come on. You got this

Speaker 2  5:07  
cheat sheet bought like a kilogramme of chocolate. Cake signs of chocolates Carl,

Speaker 1  5:14  
unless you want to be divorced do not make your special Carl pancakes

Unknown Speaker  5:19  
well no those those were no good

Unknown Speaker  5:21  
by the Geneva Convention

Unknown Speaker  5:25  
the raspberry sauce is delicious.

Speaker 1  5:27  
Well yeah, much like we were talking about the rub glaze earlier if you just whisk share powdered sugar and temporary ooze

Speaker 2  5:35  
just powdered sugar and booze. There's also actual raspberries in there.

Speaker 1  5:41  
Please continue, actually delegate to interject. So when I had to make a cherry sauce at one of the places I worked, the entire cherry sauce recipe was frozen cherries. Cognac Okay, cornstarch. Icing sugar. Yeah, time.

Speaker 2  6:02  
That sounds like exactly the same recipe as my raspberry jam board. Except for you replace the cherries with raspberries and the cognac with jam board because jam board is delicious. We're not sponsored by

Speaker 1  6:12  
shuffleboard. But we could be I

Speaker 2  6:15  
would love to be sponsored by Shan board because I don't know if there's any other raspberry lick your options. But so good. You put put a little bit in some ginger ale Yeah, raspberry ginger ale. I should put that on my list of five cold drinks for you.

Speaker 1  6:32  
Oh right. Like I was hoping we actually let's bring that back on this episode. Let's the five Karl drinks as we talk booze and Christmas bakery for this holidays.

Speaker 2  6:41  
I mean, the five that I sent you were spiced rum and ginger ale which is pretty pretty generic but a classic kind of feels

Speaker 1  6:51  
pretty crispy like if we want to add a little more holiday cheer let's switch out that ginger nail you know what ginger ale feels pretty holiday actually. I'm not gonna lie like I think he put like a couple machiner cherries in there for like the like holly berry effect to it. I think he'd be good to go.

Speaker 2  7:06  
Ryan coke with a lime wedge, which is definitely not Christmassy. That's

Unknown Speaker  7:09  
I tell that to Coca Cola is a marketing team bra.

Speaker 2  7:14  
I don't feel like riot makes it more Christmassy.

Speaker 1  7:17  
Yeah, true. I feel like it has to be like Christmas ride. Or like some sort of candy cane shops.

Speaker 2  7:25  
There's a drink that I call the Hungarian Cherry Bomb. Because it's made with orange juice, golden pear, which is some sort of Hungarian liqueur. And cherry whiskey was also definitely not Christmas to me. I mean, I don't know how

Speaker 1  7:39  
celebrate Christmas shot every year at my parents house and I turned out perfect

Speaker 2  7:51  
this one this one is definitely seasonal. Definitely a very seasonally appropriate the salted caramel, Bailey's and chocolate milk. Yes, definitely like

Speaker 1  8:02  
thanks for the milk for offer. I've been thinking about three days, and I want to blow up your milk frother but in my brain that sounds amazing.

Speaker 2  8:14  
I don't think it would blow it up. Fire and then the bikini Martini which is vodka blue Caraco peach schnapps and seven up, which is awesome like

Speaker 1  8:27  
that one except my friend Jared, who's padding to Barbados for Christmas, the rest of us now.

Unknown Speaker  8:36  
Your friend Jared is gonna wear a bikini. So

Speaker 1  8:38  
but like it's a bikini themed drink is more appropriate. There it is.

Speaker 2  8:44  
I guess so. And then what they garnish it with candy canes or something like

Speaker 1  8:48  
maybe? I don't know. I'm not a dark wizard.

Speaker 2  8:54  
Resolution board. I always call it raspberry jam board. I don't know. I don't think there's any other varieties of jam board.

Speaker 1  8:59  
So I felt the need to look up raspberry shad board while we're having this conversation. Because it's just kind of like, I swear you bought a bottle that looked cool. And then you're like, This awakened something in me. So as far as I can tell, raspberry Shan board does lead to a game called Chambord liqueur. Doesn't say raspberry, but does explicitly feel the need to mention that's a mix of black and red raspberries, but does come in a black raspberry or a red raspberry form. Oh, so do you want Shan board or do you want Shan board Royale?

Speaker 2  9:35  
Ooh, yeah, I'm not really sure. Saskatchewan doesn't get all all the nice things like the rest of the world. Like there's no butcher shop in Saskatoon that sells ostrich meat. Yeah.

Speaker 1  9:47  
What do you see that we don't get the good things and you say no butcher shops that sells and I don't know what words I thought were going to come out of your mouth. But you know what words I absolutely did not I'd occurred to me where even the plausibility ostrich meat why? Why? Why? Okay,

Speaker 2  10:09  
so I mean, if we have any American viewers or listeners, we're jumping the gun a little bit with this with this Christmas talk because they haven't even celebrated Thanksgiving. Listen

Speaker 1  10:19  
to this whenever they see fit, especially when we call it Christmas cocktails that's on them. Especially the people listening live. Just listen live from the future. Okay, like, go far enough into space that you hear this on Christmas.

Speaker 2  10:34  
But it's been so one of my favourite YouTube channels food theory. They had a whole episode about how in America, apparently the majority of people still eat turkey with thanksgiving. But apparently it's the second worst, like rated as the second worst dish had a Thanksgiving dinner. Apparently, the more and more people are cooking ham instead of Turkey because it's easier, easier to find smaller portions and there's a whole

Unknown Speaker  11:10  
bunch of reasons. I want to blame inflation though.

Speaker 2  11:13  
But the the end of the episode was kind of like a surprise twist where they're like, Yeah, but you want to know what's better than turkey or ham? ostrich meat because apparently it's like fillet mignon, but you cook it like a turkey.

Speaker 1  11:28  
So I've heard good things about ostrich meat like ostrich burgers come up a lot in my sight circles somehow. So I'm not saying don't go by it eat an ostrich. That sounds awesome. I would rather you ride the ostrich into battle like a night. But if you must consume a comically stupid animal. Ostriches topped here. But I just wanted to play like these. These peasant butcher shops haven't yet once caught a larger legged, wingless, flightless bird that's often used as video game villains because it's conic shape. It's just so stupid that you can do it in a bit easily.

Speaker 2  12:09  
All I'm saying is that I'm pretty sure that there's only one variety of jam board that has been in any of the liquor stores that I've been to in Saskatoon. So

Speaker 1  12:19  
apparently shipboard straight up was like fed to French kings like It's like has like a dramatic storied history and everything. But there's red and black Chambord

Speaker 2  12:30  
it Well, I mean, I would have to double check the bottle that that's in my house. But yeah, I can I can walk and talk. Kenny I'm gonna go check out this model.

Unknown Speaker  12:43  
First hear the cure.

Unknown Speaker  12:46  
And super good.

Speaker 1  12:49  
Apparently it's often used in the raspberry Margarita, or the French Martini.

Speaker 2  12:55  
Yeah, well I don't know if the sham board is like really Christmassy per se but

Speaker 1  13:00  
it has the right colour palette like to be perfectly fair. If I put jam board and Coca Cola and attended the Coca Cola kind of red. It would look Christmassy and then he put a candy cane stir stick in that you've won.

Speaker 2  13:15  
Or the extreme garnish anything with a candy cane suddenly becomes Christmas. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  13:19  
I mean, 60s was particularly Christmas

Speaker 2  13:26  
maybe I don't have any Chambord left me a drink at all. It was really good though. So that would make sense. I

Speaker 1  13:33  
enjoyed like the the scripture where it's like raspberries blackberries, Madagascar vanilla, Moroccan citrus peel, honey and cognac, steeped in French spirits for a period to create the fruit infusion. After the infusions extracted, a second set of spirits add to the fruit and lead to rest for a few weeks. drama, drama, drama, drama drama.

Speaker 2  13:56  
Well, I mean, it is not like exorbitantly expensive, but it is definitely more expensive like yours like his mostly. I buy like golden wedding, or like Kirkland whiskey. So it's like I generally game for the cheap stuff. But sometimes you just gotta have something that's classy and delicious. And it looks like the

Speaker 1  14:16  
holy grand grenade from Monty Python. Let's be real. That's the main selling point.

Unknown Speaker  14:20  
Is a cool bottle.

Speaker 1  14:22  
So you know what's amazing. So a few years back, me and Casper were making Christmas biscotti. We made like have a five variety of different flavours. But I'm going to ask them since we started with Christmas cake, and we never actually got to describing the Christmas cake. Christmas cake.

Speaker 2  14:38  
This is the Christmas cake. When you say fruitcakes, that's pretty much what it is. So there's like candy peels, candied fruit, and then like walnuts, and then I'm not exactly sure what the actual letter was made with but like I know there's there's some whiskey chord in there because my girlfriend's dad was like you need to have whiskey in your in your Christmas cake.

Unknown Speaker  14:59  
That makes sense to

Speaker 2  15:02  
current raisins. I just like pretty much just a normal, like fruitcake, I think. But it's for some reason. It's it's mostly served at Christmas time. I don't really, really get that. By the way, my girlfriend made it it was actually like light fluffy and kind of like

Speaker 1  15:27  
spending money, because that's, that gets a bad rap. Like it's actually delicious. I mean, I would agree. Like, when I will say that like one of my favourite things is my ancestral shortbread recipe that's like four ingredients in the main ones corn starch, and the recipe is on the back of a cornstarch box. Because you remember my ancestral recipe legacy goes back like three generations. And it's like you make the shortbread and you can't fail it because it's mostly starch. So like this cookie will be cookie shaped from now until the heat death of the universe. It also people like I make my cookies with no preservatives. Now this cookie is just preservatives. It's like equal parts powdered sugar and preservative. But it's such a good cookie base. And then I do things with it to make majestic stuff. Like I made many terabytes who butter turns with the Dell one year. I like to put like little chocolate wafers in the centre of them to make like a nice little pattern cookie. I've done butterscotch glazes on them. I've done caramel glazes on them. I've done chocolate coffee glazes on them. The cookie itself is just the vessel for the topic, but because the cookie is so scientifically stable, you really don't need to add much extra flavour to it to be like this cookie with a hint of salted caramel. Oh this cookie with a hint of Bailey's boom. So those are my basic shortbread. And I basically use them as a canvas to paint Christmas cookie on them.

Speaker 2  16:53  
But that is fair. I mean one of the nice things about shortbread cookies is that they're very easy to like send with Christmas baking because they're not gonna like go bad or anything. Christmas cake is seems a little bit more difficult to actually like ship.

Speaker 1  17:09  
I mean, it's fair that's why don't shoot people Christmas cheesecakes because like I have limits as a human

Unknown Speaker  17:18  
I don't think you could ship a cheesecake very easily at all. You

Speaker 1  17:21  
cannot even though they are delicious. So well. I

Speaker 2  17:25  
mean, pretty much the only thing I actually bake is cheesecake.

Speaker 1  17:30  
Like you're not gonna use it no bake cheesecake. What is this pressure?

Speaker 2  17:35  
Oh, yeah, last, the first couple times I made cheesecake. I didn't use the water bath. And I think that's part of the reason that it kind of cracked on top but last one I made I use the water bath and then it didn't crack. And then as per the conversation we've had made raspberry shim board sauce, which sounds so

Speaker 1  17:52  
good. So chats crinkling in that crinkle cookies are delightful. The best Christmas cookie according to chatter crinkle cookies

Speaker 2  18:00  
crinkle cookies, indeed. Okay, I mean, it sounds familiar. I can't think of what it is I'm going to do right now. Crinkle cookies.

Speaker 1  18:10  
I believe in you as you do your research. Okay.

Speaker 2  18:13  
Okay, so it looks like it's like almost like a chocolate cookie you just covered coated in Mason sugar. Definitely seen them before and I'm pretty sure I've eaten them before but

Speaker 1  18:25  
like I said, we did like a bunch of different flavours of Scotties one here like we did like a cherries chocolate orange Bissau a Scottie

Speaker 2  18:32  
Lou. Terry's chocolate oranges. I don't know why those are festive, but they're very user friendly. She's

Unknown Speaker  18:40  
coming and you're not supposed to be

Unknown Speaker  18:44  
we're not supposed to be like it's so

Unknown Speaker  18:46  
weird that oranges are a Christmas dishes not

Unknown Speaker  18:49  
Oh, I mean there's a little weird like Christmas oranges

Speaker 1  18:53  
Yeah, those crinkle cookies he basically make them with one of those like manual ice cream scoops because he just pretty much like you make them room temperature effectively to make them as buttery as dark magical out. Right right. And like you could do different flavours but like the OG chocolates where it's at. So on the topic of Christmas foods dinners, so one year might so my oven is a whip full disclosure, I'm used to working in good kitchen but when I have to work in my own kitchen, it's deeply tragic. So I tempted to cook a turkey but I pretty much had to cook it over the entire night and it didn't quite cook all the way through. Oh, so we had received a turkey and bacon as a Christmas present because they asked for Christmas. I asked for Christmas groceries for Christmas one year and it was amazing. So I ended up baking racking this turkey so the outside wouldn't dry out. Next so imagine using two packages of salt have like good cracked pepper bacon to wrap around Turkey to keep the turkey juices it as you cook the turkey thing was amazing. Normally at first, I'm good Yeah, the bacon the shell kept the turkey from burning.

Speaker 2  20:05  
Right? Again, according to the food theory episode, they are saying that because there's white meat and dark beauty in your turkey, the white meat cooks faster than the dark meat, which often leads to the white meat being very, very dry before the dark meat is actually fully cooked by so wrapping it in bacon just seems like that would just be a genius solution to the problem. Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1  20:29  
like this was a fantastic time. I mean, what also would have worked is if I had like a convenient blowtorch, but we don't always have the ability to just torch the incentive the turkey?

Speaker 2  20:40  
Apparently the CDC recommends not actually stuffing your turkey. Oh, because while your turkey might be at the right temperature, you're stuffing like not and there might be food poisoning bacteria.

Speaker 1  20:51  
What do you say oh, I want to replace turkey with an ostrich. I'm like, you know, an ostrich in my brain because I'm still thinking cartoons is even bigger than a turkey. But I don't think you're bringing home the ostrich. You're not bringing home a donkey size Bird Deed.

Speaker 2  21:07  
Maybe, like I say apparently it's flavour and texture is more like fillet mignon. And the level to which you have to cook it to make sure it's actually safe to eat is much lower. So it's safer, apparently as equally nutritious as Turkey if not more, and the very different texture and flavour profiles. So

Speaker 1  21:27  
there's actually sorry. So there's actually one year when I was growing up in Alberta, in Calgary, city of cow was a Texas light for the uninitiated. And it was actually like plus 20 out Christmas Day. So we did an outdoor barbecue for Christmas. And that's just amazing. Like, if you're having people together for a nice dinner, that's great. If you're having people together for a backyard barbecue, that's somehow even better.

Unknown Speaker  21:54  
I do love me a good barbecue,

Unknown Speaker  21:56  
although it just shifts.

Speaker 2  21:58  
Upset about the barbecue. Do you ever actually posted the episode?

Speaker 1  22:02  
We did. And I really hope people listening to this that go through our entire catalogue looking for the barbecue episode and never find it. So on the topic of barbecues and holiday festivities so my question to you is are you a fan of secret Santas?

Unknown Speaker  22:23  
Well, I'm not really sure what that has to do with barbecues but I mean,

Speaker 1  22:27  
holiday mood on this random, redacted day of the year. That is absolutely not Christmas. I'm feeling the Christmas spirit today.

Speaker 2  22:35  
I don't mind a Secret Santa. I mean, I personally really like to get people like everyone that matters to me a gift. So usually if there's a Secret Santa, I'll participate. Well, then I will also get people a gift that's just like for me, because I just want to so

Speaker 1  22:51  
I'm going to explain my secret santa woes. And I'm curious your take. So my classmates are like you're doing secret scented with us. And I'm like, part of me wants to be like, murderer. I'm old and stuffy. Because compared to you, I'm ancient. And the other part of me is like boredom. Just do a little baby. I'm only 30. That's not an adult, I want a video game to give to judge fun. So I agreed to do it, but grudgingly be like, Yeah, I guess I will allow my presence with you kids, it's fine to these 25 year olds, like you do. And here's what was weird, though. So they found an app called Elfster. Officers for holding the secret gift exchange where it gives you the, you put the number of people you want do the gift exchange, right. And then it randomises The name, so each person gets the person they get. But it's also like, post your like online shopping list on there for what you would like for your gift. It says price limit. Okay, and the idea is that, oh, you can list a bunch of things that you want for Secret Santa. And then they're like, Yeah, it's really cool. Because you can make sure to get paid things people things people they want, because it's on their list and they picked it on their list. I kind of hate it. Because I kind of hate the idea that for Secret Santa, you're supposed to like espionage, research and figure out what this person would like and then get it right. So people just post like their shopping list. And feel free to disagree. I think that kind of takes a lot of the spirit out of it. Because the idea is if you've got someone you don't really know, you then have to like Columbo this. And like, oh, they just posted their Amazon wishlist on the seat directly on this app. It's like, will they get upset if you give them something that's not on their list? Because there's a specific list? And if so, is everyone involved a terrible person?

Speaker 2  24:40  
Well, I would say generally the way that that my family does Secret Santa, is that you draw names. And then I don't really one person just kind of has to know who has everybody and they distribute the list of what people want for their secret Santa. So it's like when you when you say You got a list, like this app just kind of sounds like genius solution where nobody actually has to know whenever who got everybody and everybody can post their lists, and everyone can be happy. But I mean, I do like the idea of the espionage. I just didn't realise this was a spy episode.

Speaker 1  25:16  
Well, our spy episode, maybe it aired, who knows. But I'm just get like, it's a weird idea to me. Because for me, it's like, when I give shop, part of the goal is to try and like figure out what somebody wants. So it seems like I don't normally hand people wish lists. Like, I remember when I was dating redacted once upon a time, I'm like, what you're doing, oh, I'm writing up my wish list for Christmas for all the things I want. And that's the thing people who aren't me do. But because I grew up, lower middle class, if not upper poor. It'd be like, I would get like a thing or two things. So I didn't really ever write out a list of things for multiple people. It'd be like my parents would get the list of two or three things I wanted. And me and Jeremy would just, well, when we were younger, we wouldn't just split a bottle of booze in a new video game and call it a day. But like this year, we'll probably find the game we both want to play by each other copy of it by each other a bottle of booze and call it a day. Right, right. So it's an interesting notion that I'm not used to the idea of telling people what objects to buy with links to their shop pages, because that just doesn't quite match my Christmas vibes.

Speaker 2  26:43  
So I mean, like, you gotta keep in mind, like the price list and who you're trying to, like, get stuff from. So like, my secret Santa's list for my family was like juggling balls, tiddlywinks, coin cases for my coin collection. So I was like,

Speaker 1  27:02  
tell me, that's not your actual list for everybody. I know who you are telling you right now that if I were to send you tiddlywinks, you wouldn't be absolutely ecstatic

Speaker 2  27:14  
to receive like 10,000 tiddlywinks. But oh, this is like so you. You think about like stupid little knickknacks that you might want, that you're not going to buy for yourself. But there's something you might enjoy. And that's what you put on your Christmas list. Like, it's not, not the same as as, like, requesting a gift from someone. And in my opinion, like that's because like

Speaker 1  27:46  
I like it isn't like game I like to theory is a list of inspiration, which is why I start this with being torn on the topic, right? Because the idea of like, Oh, here's some hints of the kinds of things I would enjoy. I see the logic. And I kind of see the appeal, like I did enjoy, like populating my list of things I wanted, which has a surprising amount of Kirby themed winter gear. Okay, like you don't want to Kirby, two cars that you would never buy for yourself. I just think it's very interesting that you're doing a gift exchange, particularly as an icebreaker. That part is a challenge would be getting to know somebody's interests, but it might be overthinking it.

Speaker 2  28:26  
I mean, I suppose so. I mean, I can never really see how you would you would view the game is that like, in that way, because like Secret Santa? It is kind of a game not necessarily just to go by people stuff kind of thing. Like it's about the social interaction for sure.

Unknown Speaker  28:48  
I'm pretty. I do, like being an entrepreneur.

Speaker 2  28:51  
I do think that a lot of people have you lost that. That social spirit and then that's the list kind of age with that disconnect.

Speaker 1  29:02  
Well, it's like, what, even for you, for example. If you're like yeah, it Carl meeting up for Christmas. I would kind of be upset with myself if I couldn't find a gift that you would enjoy by just try. But also it's like, yeah, a list is handy. If you gave me a list of things you wanted, it would definitely make it easier. Even if I didn't pick off the list. I'd have a solid sample size. Right, right. Like I said, I'm weirdly torn on the issue because I don't really want to just buy something somebody something from their hypothetical shopping list. Because that's like, kind of even took the middleman out of the gift giving at that point. Because they're like say your shopping list was like, Yeah, I want volume nine a Full Metal Alchemist. I want a new set of boxing gloves. I want to slap shop and I want Shambler ord black raspberry flavour and be like does that limit me to have to pick off this specific list of things?

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